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Replacing gas fire with a wood burning stove

  • 05-12-2015 5:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭


    Hi, apologies of this has already been asked! We live in a 3 bed semi in South Dublin that was built in 1998 and is around 100m2. It has gas central heating and a gas fire in the living room. Living room has double doors that lead to a dining/ kitchen. We would like to remove the gas fire and put in a wood buring stove. Any recommendations on companies? Or any idea of a price? Thanks a mil ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Little Bubbles


    Millem wrote:
    Hi, apologies of this has already been asked! We live in a 3 bed semi in South Dublin that was built in 1998 and is around 100m2. It has gas central heating and a gas fire in the living room. Living room has double doors that lead to a dining/ kitchen. We would like to remove the gas fire and put in a wood buring stove. Any recommendations on companies? Or any idea of a price? Thanks a mil

    I'd like like an answer to this also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    bubbles I did a bit of research on it and I am worried that baby safety Fireguard would get too hot even if stove was inset?
    I got one quote €2.5k :( apparently everything needs to be replaced even though there are joins in the hearth. And wooden surround would split?? My own parents have a wooden surround and have had a stove in years and years ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Hi OP,

    You need to ask yourself why do you need to get rid of the Gas fire right now what is making this move is it a need for the fire experience or why?

    The reason i ask is i do know 2 people that had wood burning stoves installed. And neither is quite happy with the experience, both in terms of cost and overall heat output.
    One of the stoves has a backboiler and just appears that it requires a large amount of fuel to heat the room and the backboiler so that can heat the rest of the home. (ultimately perhaps the plumbing and the radiators around the home could potentially do with upgrading (mid seventies build) but the oil fired heating has no similar issues and does it at a lower cost
    The second stove they installed in a middle room which is open to double doors like a parlor. The heat output was low so they ended up not using it. (they should probably have installed in the main sitting room but didnt because they thought it might be too hot and or their would be burning smell consistently a bit edgittery but how and ever)



    Either way what im getting at is really look at the costs involved the romance of a stove fire can really just be romance and not at all cost effective or warm for some homes (not all)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Thanks for your reply! I want a stove as I find I have my gas heating on all day :( I have a toddler so want the house warm. My parents and sister have had them for years so I know how warm they are and can heat up a room even with double doors open. Neither have them hooked up to back boiler. My next door neighbour also has one. We have double doors to kitchen, tbh one is always open with toddler/dogs!!

    I don't mind putting on gas for upstairs radiators for the evening. Both my sis and parents got stoves in the place of their open fire but didn't get them inset, they are out from fireplace. They kept their hearths and wooden surrounds.

    Every place I ring are trying to sell me everything brand new! No one can answer will Fireguard get hot :confused: also they tell me a 5kw stove is grand for me. Neither my parents or sis can remember how many kws theirs are. I never light my gas fire as I would still need heating on for kitchen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Im in a similar boat. Buckets sem to do good deals in supply and fit.
    http://www.buckleyfireplaces.ie/packages.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Millem wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply! I want a stove as I find I have my gas heating on all day :( I have a toddler so want the house warm. My parents and sister have had them for years so I know how warm they are and can heat up a room even with double doors open. Neither have them hooked up to back boiler. My next door neighbour also has one. We have double doors to kitchen, tbh one is always open with toddler/dogs!!

    I don't mind putting on gas for upstairs radiators for the evening. Both my sis and parents got stoves in the place of their open fire but didn't get them inset, they are out from fireplace. They kept their hearths and wooden surrounds.

    Every place I ring are trying to sell me everything brand new! No one can answer will Fireguard get hot :confused: also they tell me a 5kw stove is grand for me. Neither my parents or sis can remember how many kws theirs are. I never light my gas fire as I would still need heating on for kitchen.

    To start if your hearth is sectional there is a very good possibility you can retain it.
    It all depends on the stove it must have a min distance of 225mm of hearth in front of stove.

    The wooden surround is a different matter if it's within the distance to combustibles it will have to go.
    It's very hard to tell with the fire guard if it will get hot it will definetly be warm but no one will be able to honestly give a true answer to that.
    It doesn't matter what way anyone else's stove is done it must be fitted to building regulations and I would guess that the others you speak of don't.
    You will get plenty to fit a stove anyway at all but only decent fitters will do it right have insurance and stand by their work.
    You really need to get someone out to give you a proper quite and advice on the best set up for your needs and house.
    Remember a sales man is just that all he wants is the sale.
    I hope some of this might have answered one or two of your questions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Robbie my hearth is in sections. I want everything done above board but don't want to be taken for a ride either!

    I find it hard to believe that a shop who fits stoves day in day out can't tell me if fireguard would get too hot. Surely they fit it for people with small children etc. I live in a very big standard 3bed semi. Our Room dimensions etc are very much standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    ted1 wrote: »
    Im in a similar boat. Buckets sem to do good deals in supply and fit.
    http://www.buckleyfireplaces.ie/packages.html

    Rang them last week. They quoted €2.5k! You have to pay them to come out to your house but it is redeemable against a purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Millem wrote: »
    Robbie my hearth is in sections. I want everything done above board but don't want to be taken for a ride either!

    I find it hard to believe that a shop who fits stoves day in day out can't tell me if fireguard would get too hot. Surely they fit it for people with small children etc. I live in a very big standard 3bed semi. Our Room dimensions etc are very much standard.

    A lot would depend on the stove and distance it is from fire guard for example a inset stove would be a lot further away than a free standing stove.
    So naturally enough a fire guard on a free standing stove will be hotter than a inset one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    A lot would depend on the stove and distance it is from fire guard for example a inset stove would be a lot further away than a free standing stove.
    So naturally enough a fire guard on a free standing stove will be hotter than a inset one

    I told 3 companies that the stove woukd be inset. All the fire guards are standard in depth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    Millem wrote: »
    bubbles I did a bit of research on it and I am worried that baby safety Fireguard would get too hot even if stove was inset?
    I got one quote €2.5k :( apparently everything needs to be replaced even though there are joins in the hearth. And wooden surround would split?? My own parents have a wooden surround and have had a stove in years and years ??

    If you have wooden surround and there is a fire your insurance will walk away in event of a claim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    If you have wooden surround and there is a fire your insurance will walk away in event of a claim

    Ok thanks a million, they never told me that!! They just said it would crack!


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