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Emergency Passport/Rapid Renewal

  • 04-12-2015 4:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey all,

    Long story short, I have to update my current passport (its still valid) to the new e-passport with the chip installed. I am flying through the states on the 29th and need it to get the ESTA visa for transit, not having one has cost me a lot in the previous days with money and stress.

    I have booked into a meeting in the passport office on Tuesday morning to get a new one done ASAP, and I have heard of the rapid renewal one which I hope will sort me out. My meeting/submission of forms is on the 8th and I fly on the 29th.

    I read online that turnaround for these is somewhere in the region of 5 days, please confirm this for me, or ill be swimming back to Vancouver.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Mileage varies. If needs happen, you can get one in a few hours. However, that is very much the exception, e.g. bereavement or an at-risk person.

    Passport Express is 10 days: http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Sending+Mail/Speed/Passport+Express/

    Bring your ticket with you when you see them. Explain when you are travelling and you need to get the ETSA in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Is there any issue with you travelling to Ireland on one passport and travelling back on another? I gather from your other thread that you've recently flown home from Vancouver on your 'old' passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Is there any issue with you travelling to Ireland on one passport and travelling back on another? I gather from your other thread that you've recently flown home from Vancouver on your 'old' passport.
    I imagine not. It may be a problem entering another country (other than the country of the passport) on one passport and leaving on another - without good reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Victor wrote: »
    Allegedly.

    Although should be on time in December.

    Theres an expedited application but it costs over+above the normal passport fees. about 55 euros

    https://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=259


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Are you 100% sure it is not valid? If it is machine-readable without the chip . Mine has no chip, issued in April 2006 and US compliant. As of last June anyhow.

    So. Machine readable will do if you have it and fit below criteria from US Embassy

    "Passport requirements for VWP applicants who are nationals of the following 27 countries:

    Andorra, Australia, Austria*, Belgium, Brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany*, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom:

    --October 26, 2005 - Passports issued prior to this date must be machine-readable.


    --October 26, 2005 - Passports issued on or after this date must have a digital photo. A digital photo is one that is printed on the page, not a photo that is glued or laminated into the passport.


    --October 26, 2006 - Passports issued on or after this date must be an e-passport with an electronic chip. Review further information on the DHS website.

    Emergency and Temporary Passports

    Effective July 1, 2009, for travel to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), all passports issued on and after October 26, 2006, including emergency and temporary passports, are subject to the electronic passport (e-passport) requirement. Review changes to VWP travel for bearers of emergency/temporary passports webpage on this site.

    It is important to note that families require individual passports for each traveler, including infants, should they wish to travel visa free. Machine-readable passports typically have biodata for only one traveler in the machine-readable zone. Based on this, families may be denied visa free entry into the United States if the biodata for only one traveler is machine-readable. Travelers not in possession of machine-readable passports will require either B-1 (business) or B-2 (tourist) visas, or a combination of both (B1/B2). Review instructions on How To Apply For A Visa on this site.

    The requirement that the traveler be in possession of a machine readable passport/e-Passport applies only to those seeking entry into the United States under the Visa Waiver Program; it does not apply to those applying for visas.

    How do I know if I have a machine-readable passport?
    View sample Machine Readable Passport at top of this page. Travelers should also look at the bottom of their passport [the photo page] for two lines that are typeface lines, that have letters, numbers and hatch marks." The two lines at the bottom of a machine-readable passport, for example, would look like the following:

    LINE 1: P COUNTRY LAST NAME << FIRST NAME < MIDDLE NAME <<<<<
    LINE 2: PASSPORT NUMBER COUNTRY DOB<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Machine-readable passports allow data in the passport to be scanned automatically by a machine. The two lines of printed OCR-B machine-readable data (circled in red in the image of a U.S. machine-readable passport shown above) are the most noticeable features of a machine-readable passport. If you are in any doubt as to whether or not your passport is a machine-readable passport, you should check with the passport issuing authority of your country. Visit the DHS website for more information. "


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    If it has the less than signs its machine readable. I doubt any valid non-embassy issued passport is not machine readable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It is machine readable but in order to get an ESTA online, you need to have an epassport, its already cost me a lot of stress and money.

    If I am to get an ESTA with the current passport, then I would need to go to the US embassy or consulate and its not as quick online, I was told in Vancouver it would take 3 weeks.

    While I am home also, it would be easier to get a new passport while I am here, its a bit longer and more complex when you are in Van as the embassy is in Ottawa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Andrea B. wrote: »
    Are you 100% sure it is not valid? If it is machine-readable without the chip . Mine has no chip, issued in April 2006 and US compliant. As of last June anyhow.

    So. Machine readable will do if you have it and fit below criteria from US Embassy

    "Passport requirements for VWP applicants who are nationals of the following 27 countries:

    Andorra, Australia, Austria*, Belgium, Brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany*, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom:

    --October 26, 2005 - Passports issued prior to this date must be machine-readable.


    --October 26, 2005 - Passports issued on or after this date must have a digital photo. A digital photo is one that is printed on the page, not a photo that is glued or laminated into the passport.


    --October 26, 2006 - Passports issued on or after this date must be an e-passport with an electronic chip. Review further information on the DHS website.

    Emergency and Temporary Passports

    Effective July 1, 2009, for travel to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), all passports issued on and after October 26, 2006, including emergency and temporary passports, are subject to the electronic passport (e-passport) requirement. Review changes to VWP travel for bearers of emergency/temporary passports webpage on this site.

    It is important to note that families require individual passports for each traveler, including infants, should they wish to travel visa free. Machine-readable passports typically have biodata for only one traveler in the machine-readable zone. Based on this, families may be denied visa free entry into the United States if the biodata for only one traveler is machine-readable. Travelers not in possession of machine-readable passports will require either B-1 (business) or B-2 (tourist) visas, or a combination of both (B1/B2). Review instructions on How To Apply For A Visa on this site.

    The requirement that the traveler be in possession of a machine readable passport/e-Passport applies only to those seeking entry into the United States under the Visa Waiver Program; it does not apply to those applying for visas.

    How do I know if I have a machine-readable passport?
    View sample Machine Readable Passport at top of this page. Travelers should also look at the bottom of their passport [the photo page] for two lines that are typeface lines, that have letters, numbers and hatch marks." The two lines at the bottom of a machine-readable passport, for example, would look like the following:

    LINE 1: P COUNTRY LAST NAME << FIRST NAME < MIDDLE NAME <<<<<
    LINE 2: PASSPORT NUMBER COUNTRY DOB<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Machine-readable passports allow data in the passport to be scanned automatically by a machine. The two lines of printed OCR-B machine-readable data (circled in red in the image of a U.S. machine-readable passport shown above) are the most noticeable features of a machine-readable passport. If you are in any doubt as to whether or not your passport is a machine-readable passport, you should check with the passport issuing authority of your country. Visit the DHS website for more information. "

    This is really interesting to see. I am going to be contacting the booking agent I went with and telling them this. My flights ended up more than doubling in price and the penalty fees were insane.

    Thanks for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Hi.
    1. What is your exact issue date?
    2. Has it or has it not the machine-readable "lessthan" symbols on the photo page?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Andrea B. wrote: »
    Hi.
    1. What is your exact issue date?
    2. Has it or has it not the machine-readable "lessthan" symbols on the photo page?

    1. The issue date is August 14th 2006.
    2. Yup, it has them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Gintonious wrote: »
    1. The issue date is August 14th 2006.
    2. Yup, it has them.

    Then, seems you do not require ePas unless issued after Oct 2006. So you appear to be ok according to DHS web.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Andrea B. wrote: »
    Then, seems you do not require ePas unless issued after Oct 2006. So you appear to be ok according to DHS web.

    Well to be sure I have the bases covered, and while I am home, I will get a new passport to save any further hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Just a follow up on this.

    With my new passport, will there be an issue with my booking for traveling? Or would it all be sorted at the check-in desk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Just a follow up on this.

    With my new passport, will there be an issue with my booking for traveling? Or would it all be sorted at the check-in desk?
    Do you mean will you be refused check-in simply because you renewed your passport? Highly unlikely. Passport office will normally return your old passport (with the corners cut off) if you request.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Just a follow up on this.

    With my new passport, will there be an issue with my booking for traveling? Or would it all be sorted at the check-in desk?

    If you arrive at the US with a completely blank (and brand new) passport expect to get a more intense questioning by immigration than you would otherwise.

    I would suggest you also carry your old passport with you when you travel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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    This is just based on my experience going through US immigration last week. I didn't have my old one on me either.

    Literally the first thing the guy said to me was "oh wow, a new blank passport. Can I take a look at your old one?".

    Of course it's not a major issue but it's not difficult to carry your old one if you have it and could save you a bit of time. With all the issues going on at the moment I guess they're scrutinising a bit more and are nervous of people who may replace passports to hide old stamps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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    Obviously.

    But if the choice is to throw an extra passport in your bag (if you have it) or stand for longer getting questioned then it seems like a pretty easy thing to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Hold on, ill get extra questioning because my passport is new?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Hold on, ill get extra questioning because my passport is new?
    They will want to know why either (a) you have never travelled before or (b) you are hiding previous visa stamps (of nefarious places!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Victor wrote: »
    They will want to know why either (a) you have never travelled before or (b) you are hiding previous visa stamps (of nefarious places!).

    That you can travel very, very extensively without receiving a single stamp does make option a a bit difficult for them.

    I have three stamps (from two countries) in my passport; but I've been to maybe 15 countries with it. Its visibly quite worn though.


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