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Tiler wants extra €500

  • 04-12-2015 9:45am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭


    We're having the bathroom remodeled and the tiler is looking for extra € because the stone shelf/alcove was more difficult than expected. He said the reason for this is because we decided not to use a chrome trim around the edge of the tile so it made it more difficult to finish. The shelf was agreed at the beginning of the project so it's not like we requested additional extras during the project.

    Any thoughts on whether this is a particular difficult piece of work considering that there is not profile edge on the stone.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭tenbob1


    Things like this really annoy me, its happening more and more as well as things are starting to get busy again.

    A reputable tradesman should always give you a price before he does any extra work, explain his reasoning, and let the customer decide if its worth it for them.

    Just how long extra did the work take him ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    tenbob1 wrote: »
    Things like this really annoy me, its happening more and more as well as things are starting to get busy again.

    A reputable tradesman should always give you a price before he does any extra work, explain his reasoning, and let the customer decide if its worth it for them.

    Just how long extra did the work take him ?

    2 days apparently...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    If the price was agreed before the work that's what he should get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I wouldn't be paying any extra- the work done doesn't look great from those photos. Also hard to take any tiler seriously if he doesn't have a wet cut saw- even a cheap one from Lidl or aldi would give a better finish than any hand-held angle grinder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I wouldn't be paying any extra- the work done doesn't look great from those photos. Also hard to take any tiler seriously if he doesn't have a wet cut saw- even a cheap one from Lidl or aldi would give a better finish than any hand-held angle grinder.

    I wouldn't be paying any extra- the work done doesn't look great from those photos. Also hard to take any tiler seriously if he doesn't have a wet cut saw- even a cheap one from Lidl or aldi would give a better finish than any hand-held angle grinder.


    I think the extra 500 Euro might have been a reasonable request for 2 days extra work. If he priced expecting to use a trim then that's what he priced for. but I'm really not sure that the finish job is worth paying extra.

    The tile edges should all line up neatly and some in the photo clearly don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Based on those photo's I wouldn't be paying another 550 quid and I can't see how not using a trim adds 2 days to a job?
    Trim or no trim measure, mark, measure, cut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    Tell him you won't be giving him any extra money but you do want him to re-tile the bathroom to the high standard you initially expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    What photos are yee talkin about? I can't see any


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    What photos are yee talkin about? I can't see any

    OP removed the photos yesterday evening. Possibly because we were more concerned with the quality of the job rather than the price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭SC024


    tell him where the bustop is. end of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    OP removed the photos yesterday evening. Possibly because we were more concerned with the quality of the job rather than the price?

    Op here. I took the photos down because I was conscious of them staying up there permanently. I'll stick them back up shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Op here. I took the photos down because I was conscious of them staying up there permanently. I'll stick them back up shortly.
    You can always edit and remove them later if you wish. I'd like to see them too but even without, it would appear that the majority are siding with not a great job so it'd be a big fat no to extra cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭d-don


    I'm a tiler and bathroom fitter . Re post the pics as I'd love to see what €500 for this gets. I must be too cheap lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    d-don wrote: »
    I'm a tiler and bathroom fitter . Re post the pics as I'd love to see what €500 for this gets. I must be too cheap lol

    They're back up here https://imgur.com/a/0qlHn

    There's a new window going in and the tile used in honed travertine. The ceiling has been lowered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭bizidea


    I would not pay the extra don't think this tiler has used too much stone or marble before those tiles should have been cut with a wet saw to avoid the chipping.or else he could have turned the cut edges back into the returns and leave the natural edges exposed imo it's a very shoddy job to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Flatzie_poo


    They're back up here https://imgur.com/a/0qlHn

    There's a new window going in and the tile used in honed travertine. The ceiling has been lowered.

    Those tiles were cut with a bonesaw by the looks of things!! :eek:

    DO not hand over anymore money, I'd contemplate using the €500 he's seeking to get someone skilled in to fix up the mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭JIdontknow


    I don't know much about tiling but what did he cut them with, did he just stamp on them to cut/break them to suit??!! Let alone the jagged edge, they are not even cut square (second from bottom picture, tile tapers as it goes from left to right, at left it is flush at edge, at right side its tapered back in (And at the back of the tile). Did the tiler know chrome strips were NOT being used all along, or for the extra 500 is he going to re do all the rough edges??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Extortion! €250 a day, does he think hes a brain surgeon or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Jen44


    i wonder where you are based op? I had a tiling job done in drogheda around a year ago got the tilers name from the drogheda leader he was dreadful absolutely terrible wonder if its the same guy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    Ack that annoys me ffs
    OP , dont be giving this cowboy anymore money , i dread to think what you've paid so far!
    I understand you maybe dont know many tradesmen etc but for anyone else reading this thread.
    When buying quality tiles , the seller will have a few decent lads they use for fitting, use them!

    I dont know what to say here with it being so close to Xmas and the price of those tiles.
    Personally i wouldnt be spending that sort of money to have a finish like that.
    Might be an idea to look for a tiler to come out and see what he can do with the edges.

    Best of luck and hopefully someone reads and remembers that when you buy expensive materials get a recommended and reliable tradesman (not a handyman/chancer)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    just had 2 bathrooms, kitchen tiled, the state of that work is ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 brendane


    Don't pay him anymore money and stop any money you have left to pay him.

    Back to your original question about how long it would take to do the tiles without using a trim. For a good quality tradesman, I'd say not long at all ( maybe 2 hours max.) as he would be cutting the tiles square no matter what way he was finishing them. This guy however looks like he wanted to use a trim to cover up his own inability to do the job properly and when you didn't want to use the trim, he didn't have the skill to do it himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Any ideas how long it would take a separate tiler to fix?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Flatzie_poo


    The edges are not a problem - a day, but every picture has shabby tiles. This may be a complete re-do job unfortunately!

    This guy is a cowboy.

    OP, how did you find this guy? Was it through a paper/newsletter?

    Can you disclose if he has been paid for the work to date?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    The edges are not a problem - a day, but every picture has shabby tiles. This may be a complete re-do job unfortunately!

    This guy is a cowboy.

    OP, how did you find this guy? Was it through a paper/newsletter?

    Can you disclose if he has been paid for the work to date?

    Through the builder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    If your "tiler" argues about the cash, show him this thread and ask him to post his name beside the pics. He should be pulled up for charging for that brutal job, nevermind asking for more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    It cant be through a builder?
    No "builder" is having a man doing shyte like that, esp in half decent bathrooms.

    Something very dodgy going on , contact the supplier 1st off and ask them to inspect the work.
    If they recommended the builder then your flying.

    If you only got a builder for fitting then i cant believe hes seen the finish , he wouldn't be paying his subbie for that.
    Again if hes got a reputation to protect he will get that mess tidied up at his own cost.

    Very hard on an internet thread to make sense of it.

    Take at least one thing everyone is telling you on-board.
    DONT pay anymore money and refuse to pay any owing until its fixed.

    Courts and all that is a waste of time , if its going nowhere then refuse to pay anymore money and get a tradesman in to fix it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    have to agree not the best and did he not use coloured grout to match the tiles as i see plenty of plastered white grout,i am going for corner trims on mine as using leds under basin with occupancy sensor.
    best of luck m8 as were behind ya getting it fixed .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭bizidea


    I think the guy might actually be a tiler but with no experience of natural stone. It's a completely different ball game to ceramic or porcelain tiling.I seen a job done in the past by a very good tiler that would be highly recommended but had no experience of stone to say the job he done was cat would be an understatement you really need someone who knows what they are at when it comes to stone


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    The most obvious fault in my opinion is that the tiling was done in brick effect design but yet the back wall of the shelf is not done in brick design!
    A/ back wall of shelf not done in brick design
    B/ The window is always fitted first even if the tiling has to wait for it to be fitted,common sense reason
    c/If not using trims with travertine the corners should not be cut/mitered in such a way that there is a sharp edge on the corner,why..,if anyone loses their balance and falls its possible to hit their head against the corner and get badly hurt.the corners should be semi bullnosed
    something like this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHEdlOhRRLQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Id agree with other people here Id stop whatever payment is due and get a tiler who knows what his doing in to inspect the work and give a written statement on whats wrong just in case the cowboy takes it further. That is terrible work, now giving that its some sort of stone or marble quickly judging by the pictures it should be easier to match up straight lines in terms of lining tiles up compared to ceramic tiles which can differ by a few mm at most.....Again what others have said I would be very pissed off see that sort of work.


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