The poor people of Sandymount...

jetsonx

Holy moly did anyone see how close that new incinerator is to Sandymount...it's literally just across the water from Sandymount strand.

What exactly is going to happen to the toxic emissions when the wind-corridor changes? Where will these emissions end up? In Sandymount, Irishtown and Ringsend or possibly further afield.

If this incinerator is dealing with general waste it is going to be burning all sorts plastics, metals, paints, batteries and heaven knows what. A quick look on Google shows a scary correlation between incinerators and all sorts of weird diseases and cancers for those who live in the locality (and according to some studies, pre-natal harm to the unborn).

Fianna Fail might have introduced the smoking ban but have replaced it with a big dirty dioxin-belching incinerator in our city. To make matters worse this scheme all seems to be all managed by some American outfit (Covanta) who have some very dubious ethical credentials who I'm sure gave Fianna Fail a nice pay off. Not only is this incinerator a health-hazard it's also a monument to FF's greed and short-termism.


Do you think this incinerator is a health-hazard and would you like to live near an incinerator?

kneemos

Does it have scrubbers?


Bet it does.

NiallBoo

I can't tell whether this is a joke or not...

Mr. Incognito

Bertie And the boys will be first in line with some old files

Grid.

Ohhhh is that what that thing is!!!

The_Valeyard

Think I'll go make some soup.

BoJack Horseman

I can sympathise....
Who would want a shiny new building obscuring the locals view of the adjoining coal slag heap & industrial run-offs!


As the saying goes.... "first they came for the slag-heaps, but I did nothing, for I am not made of coal.... or a slag"

MadsL

jetsonx wrote: »

Holy moly did anyone see how close that new incinerator is to Sandymount...it's literally just across the water from Sandymount strand.

What exactly is going to happen to the toxic emissions when the wind-corridor changes? Where will these emissions end up? In Sandymount, Irishtown and Ringsend or possibly further afield.

If this incinerator is dealing with general waste it is going to be burning all sorts plastics, metals, paints, batteries and heaven knows what. A quick look on Google shows a scary correlation between incinerators and all sorts of weird diseases and cancers for those who live in the locality (and according to some studies, pre-natal harm to the unborn).

Fianna Fail might have introduced the smoking ban but have replaced it with a big dirty dioxin-belching incinerator in our city. To make matters worse this scheme all seems to be all managed by some American outfit (Covanta) who have some very dubious ethical credentials who I'm sure gave Fianna Fail a nice pay off. Not only is this incinerator a health-hazard it's also a monument to FF's greed and short-termism.


Do you think this incinerator is a health-hazard and would you like to live near an incinerator?

You probably should have started your campaign in 2006, is this a surprise?? People have been talking about this since 1997.

Capt'n Midnight

jetsonx wrote: »

Do you think this incinerator is a health-hazard

Totally, it's annual emissions would be something like 15 minutes of Halloween night.

The Sidewards Man

I thought it was a new strip club.

kneemos

Bit of an odd location just in terms of access and added traffic to an already congested area.
Hard to think of a worse spot.

Atlantic Dawn

The diesel powered trucks delivering the waste to the plant daily will be a bigger health hazard to the public than the plant itself.

mad muffin

Are we still going on about it?

Superhorse

kneemos wrote: »

Bit of an odd location just in terms of access and added traffic to an already congested area.
Hard to think of a worse spot.

Inside a children's hospital?

sonny.knowles

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

I thought it was a new strip club.

Hope you didn't go to the bother of breaking out the codpiece before finding out it isn't.

El Weirdo

kneemos wrote: »

Does it have scrubbers?


Bet it does.

darkpagandeath

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Totally, it's annual emissions would be something like 15 minutes of Halloween night.

Would that be with your head in the stack :P

5starpool

You make it sound like some 19th century factory OP. I bet you cause more emissions in a a year than this factory does (obviously I am willing to bet the grand sum of 0 on this).

Capt'n Midnight

Superhorse wrote: »

Inside a children's hospital?

Technically speaking , a lot of hospital waste is incinerated because germs.

Sh1tbag OToole

My heart goes out to them. I can just imagine them hunched behind their PC's, frantically refreshing Daft to see if their fairly bland looking 3-bedroom €600k house has gone down to €599k yet

DareGod

Hmm. I think I might leave Dublin...

Former Oscar winner Jeremy Irons: 'Poolbeg incinerator a most enormous step back for Ireland'

Former Oscar winner Jeremy Irons has described the controversial €600m Poolbeg incinerator as a “most enormous step back” for Ireland.

The environmentalist and presenter of the multi-awarding-winning documentary “Trashed” described incineration as “a very dangerous way to get rid of trash”.

Mr Irons, who lives in West Cork, told RTE Radio’s Sean O’Rourke that while making the film, he visited a village in France which once had an incinerator close by. Some 26 pc of residents developed cancer, he said.

“Incineration is a very dangerous way to get rid of trash.”

“Even though [incinerators] have filters, they don’t filter something called microflurons - only if they’re working 100pc, which as we know from vaccum cleaners, doesn’t happen.”

“Everything that goes up must come down, so it either comes down on the sea and gets into the ecological system in the sea, or it comes down on the land and is eaten by cattle and we drink those things in our milk.”

The actor, who visited north Vietnam, Lebanon, and Indonesia to film the documentary, said incineration is also not a cheap method of getting rid of waste.

“It takes 26 times more energy to make plastic than the energy you get out of it by burning it. So we’re throwing energy away, we’re not getting cheap energy.”

“It’s a fallacious argument put to us by companies who have a vested interest in these enormous government subsidies to build incinerators. They’re very, very expensive.”

“They have a life of about 20 years, and in order to be economically viable they have to be crammed full to keep the temperature really high in order that everything be combusted as well as possible.”

“In order to do that, you have to burn material which you could recycle, which you could reuse. In many cases, because there are too many incinerators in Europe, there are more than the market demands.”

“For Ringsend, we will have to import rubbish to burn, to put out pollutants in the atmosphere, to fall upon our lands or on our seas to affect our children.”
Mr Irons will take part in a discussion following a free screening of "Trashed" at University College Cork today from 2.15pm until 4.30pm.

“[The film] has won about 15 awards at film festivals, and it’s been shown on TV in Italy, Argentina and Indonesia... Maybe one of these days it’ll be shown on cinema in Ireland.”

The Poolbeg incinerator has been dogged with controversy since its inception and has seen its costs hit roughly €100m to date including a total spend of €52m on the project site, which was last estimated to be worth just over €6m.
Work recently began on the €600m incinerator after years of delays and despite Dublin City councillors voting against the project.

The facility will have the capacity to burn 600,000 tonnes of waste a year. It is expected to start operations in the second half of 2017.

The Poolbeg incinerator plant was first proposed in 1997 but has faced numerous legal and political delays, including an unsuccessful complaint made to the European Commission that the project was in breach of State aid rules

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/former-oscar-winner-jeremy-irons-poolbeg-incinerator-a-most-enormous-step-back-for-ireland-31014476.html


On a side note, why are they calling him "Former" Oscar winner? Once an Oscar winner, always an Oscar winner. Do they think his award was taken off him or something?

dd972

What's it got to do with him?, he's not Oooirrishh! :mad:







(ironic piss take of those type of little irelander posters)

NachoBusiness

They're building a wall in Clontarf along the coast also? To prevent against "flood" damage apparently. I think it's pretty clear what's going on. Does the Government think we're dumb or something?? Incinerator my arse. It's a nuclear power station and everyone knows it.

sonny.knowles

NachoBusiness wrote: »

They're building a wall in Clontarf along the coast also? To prevent against "flood" damage apparently. I think it's pretty clear what's going on. Does the Government think we're dumb or something?? Incinerator my arse. It's a nuclear power station and everyone knows it.

Well they do now. Keep your mouth shut in future.

Merrion

I need it to be up and running in January to get rid of all the s-t-b "presents"

RDM_83 again

I don't give a sh-t about the yummy mummies of Sandymount having a few K knocked of the value of their house.
That doesn't stop me thinking that the story of this project is one of incompetence waste of tax payer money and likely corruption.Are we still going to have to pay the operator extra if we actually cut down on waste?

kneemos

RDM_83 again wrote: »

I don't give a sh-t about the yummy mummies of Sandymount having a few K knocked of the value of their house.
That doesn't stop me thinking that the story of this project is one of incompetence waste of tax payer money and likely corruption.Are we still going to have to pay the operator extra if we actually cut down on waste?

There's a saving on landfills presumably.

BattleCorp

These things shouldn't be built in the middle of a city. They should be located on the outskirts in an area that isn't likely to be built up.

Somewhere with good transport links, maybe just off a motorway in an area that doesn't have many residents, that's where this should have been situated. There are many better sites on the outskirts of Dublin than the Poolbeg site.

Same with the Children's hospital. That is being built in a totally unsuitable place. There will be traffic gridlock when that is built.

There seems to be a lot of gobsh1tes around when it comes to planning major infrastructure projects in this little corrupt country of ours.

jetsonx

BattleCorp wrote: »

These things shouldn't be built in the middle of a city.

Exactly. What other country in western Europe would build a new incinerator in the middle of a city?

kneemos

jetsonx wrote: »

Exactly. What other country in western Europe would build a new incinerator in the middle of a city?

If they're going to be importing a lot or most of their fuel it might make some sense.

BattleCorp

kneemos wrote: »

If they're going to be importing a lot or most of their fuel it might make some sense.

Would it be cost effective for other countries to ship their normal waste to an incinerator here in Ireland?

Maybe if they wanted to burn toxic waste but for general domestic refuse, I would have thought it would be cost prohibitive.

kneemos

BattleCorp wrote: »

Would it be cost effective for other countries to ship their normal waste to an incinerator here in Ireland?

Maybe if they wanted to burn toxic waste but for general domestic refuse, I would have thought it would be cost prohibitive.

No idea."Daregod"on the previous page reackons they will need to import rubbish to keep it going,from where I don't know.

BattleCorp

kneemos wrote: »

No idea."Daregod"on the previous page reackons they will need to import rubbish to keep it going,from where I don't know.

I'm glad that I live "out in the sticks", well away from a huge commercial incinerator like this.