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Car rental headache

  • 25-11-2015 4:49pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭


    so i rented a car this morning booked two days ago and expected a "Insignia type"
    apparently the one i got was an "insignia type" but i was surprised
    which of these "insignia type cars" was i surprised to learn make up the vast majority of their fleet

    Whish of these is not an insignia type? 100 votes

    Avensis
    0%
    Mondeo
    3%
    robbie99Mar4ixJ.pilkington 3 votes
    Jetta
    2%
    Cercoinnocent_lover 2 votes
    Mazda 6
    95%
    Atomic Pineapple_Kaiser_BorderfoxPáidThetadavidocoConarkirvingRoddy23Mc Lovedingdingpred racerDoraDeliteTiggerVegetakc66Henry Ford IIIdargQwerty?afatbollix 95 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Had a guy on the phone there who refused point blank to say the words group D car, large family car or small family car


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    "all our insignia types are Jettas at the moment"
    i had called in on Monday in person and the Guy told me i was getting a superb "probably" I though cool a Superb or an Insignia, you could put a Jetta in the boot of a Superb

    Is there anywhere good for car hire in Ireland that don't muck you around like this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    well it seems i'm not the only one
    anyhows be aware that renting an "Insignia Type" will get you a Jetta and that ringing up to complain just gets you a PFO.

    ShaunieVW you only wouldn't be surprised because you probably sell them to this crowd


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Mazda 6
    Your mistake was accepting the Jetta. I'd have insisted on a discount.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Your mistake was accepting the Jetta. I'd have insisted on a discount.
    thats what my brief told me but they were at my house even tho i'd asked to collect at the depot and i would have been late for work


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    which poster has the small jetta far away passatt photo sig
    i want it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    Tigger wrote: »
    Is there anywhere good for car hire in Ireland that don't muck you around like this?

    A friend of mine home from the US recently was charged 1.5k to hire out a Pug for 10 days. 150 quid a day for a 1.6 diesel :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Jesus. wrote: »
    A friend of mine home from the US recently was charged 1.5k to hire out a Pug for 10 days. 150 quid a day for a 1.6 diesel :(

    Jesus; i'm paying 22


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    I don't feel as sorry for you now Tigger :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Tigger wrote: »
    Jesus; i'm paying 22

    Bounce that thing of the limiter and burn off as much of the tyres as possible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Bounce that thing of the limiter and burn off as much of the tyres as possible.

    naw i'm gonna whinge on social media instead and its not the cars fault
    its acually a nice car but i need to collect three lads at the weekend and there's a reason there are no jetta taxis
    and it don't make "adequate power" as Rolls would put it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Mazda 6
    Tigger have you been talking to yourself mostly in this thread as I'm really confused :confused:

    Was ShaunieVW posting here? I can't see his posts if he did and usually I can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    he posted mazda 6 on the poll
    since he knows cars i assume its because he's a vdub person

    which do you think dosen't fit in the "Insignia type" car bracket
    i did the poll because i'm gonna sue for false description and before i go to the trouble i want to see if the other petrol heads on here agree that its not a "Insignia type car" its a golf with a boot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Mazda 6
    Tigger wrote: »
    he posted mazda 6 on the poll
    since he knows cars i assume its because he's a vdub person
    Never thought of that!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    Bounce that thing of the limiter and burn off as much of the tyres as possible.

    Did that in a rental before and the damn thing went into limp mode for a whole day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Jesus. wrote: »
    Did that in a rental before and the damn thing went into limp mode for a whole day

    i thought you'd have been more well behaved
    puts a different spin on WWJD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    Mazda 6
    I always book a super-mini and thus far have always got something bigger, sometimes a lot bigger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    I always book a super-mini and thus far have always got something bigger, sometimes a lot bigger.

    absolutely thats the smart way and only once have i ever got the supermini that way its the clever way to do it i believe now that i'd have got a jetta in the mini super mini , small family or (as i wanted) the large family car bracket. if id just wanted transport i'd have gone that route

    but my mondy needed attention and i got pissed me off so i thought "i'll spend a few hundred to cheer me up with an "insignia type" car for a couple of weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Mazda 6
    Doesn't surprise me that a rental car would count a Jetta as a Mondeo/Insignia type car, they do the same with Octavia and Fluence.

    No amount of arguing with them will get them to admit any different.

    Computer says it's a Passat/Insignia size, so that's what it is. Qashqai is another one too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,127 ✭✭✭kirving


    Mazda 6
    The Jetta is a smart choice from the rental company's perspective. Everyone will tell you that a Focus is smaller than a Mondeo, but most won't immediately see the difference between a Jetta and a Passat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    R.O.R wrote: »
    Doesn't surprise me that a rental car would count a Jetta as a Mondeo/Insignia type car, they do the same with Octavia and Fluence.

    No amount of arguing with them will get them to admit any different.

    Computer says it's a Passat/Insignia size, so that's what it is. Qashqai is another one too.

    Ok but the euro commission in car catagorys must count for something
    I appreciate your input as a fleet person tho
    I have their ops manager admitting I have a point on record tho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    The Jetta is a smart choice from the rental company's perspective. Everyone will tell you that a Focus is smaller than a Mondeo, but most won't immediately see the difference between a Jetta and a Passat.

    The Jetta is small the passatt is far away


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    R.O.R wrote: »
    Doesn't surprise me that a rental car would count a Jetta as a Mondeo/Insignia type car, they do the same with Octavia and Fluence.
    No amount of arguing with them will get them to admit any different. Computer says it's a Passat/Insignia size, so that's what it is. Qashqai is another one too.

    But how can they say a Jetta is the same size as the Passat that they have in the Insignia bracket? Doesn't the fact that the Passat is the next VW up the range disprove that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Tigger wrote: »
    thats what my brief told me but they were at my house even tho i'd asked to collect at the depot and i would have been late for work

    Ah Enterprise!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Jesus. wrote: »
    But how can they say a Jetta is the same size as the Passat that they have in the Insignia bracket? Doesn't the fact that the Passat is the next VW up the range disprove that?

    The Jetta on my insignia type rental contract disagrees with you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Mazda 6
    Tigger wrote: »
    The Jetta on my insignia type rental contract disagrees with you

    Could you not insist on it being swapped out. You only accepted it as they would have left you late for work day one.


  • Site Banned Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭XR3i


    all those cars are the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    XR3i wrote: »
    all those cars are the same

    Which cars?
    A Jetta is much smaller than a insignia
    Much slower also I do 160+ a day o need a bit of comfort
    A Jetta is tiny
    Bit like an xr3i to an xr4i


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    Tigger wrote: »
    Much slower also I do 160+ a day o need a bit of comfort

    You better batten down the hatches Tigger. When the HHB get wind of the fact you go over 100mph every day they'll ride you down and cut you to pieces


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    Jesus. wrote: »
    You better batten down the hatches Tigger. When the HHB get wind of the fact you go over 100mph every day they'll ride you down and cut you to pieces

    Km per day not per hour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    Mazda 6
    isn't a Jetta a Golf with a boot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    No apparently it's an "insignia type" car
    They just keep saying things like this over and over
    Nowhere on their site does it suggest that a Jetta is a insignia and as I said earlier I can't even swap it out because all their "available" "insignia type" cars are Jettas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Jesus. wrote: »
    A friend of mine home from the US recently was charged 1.5k to hire out a Pug for 10 days. 150 quid a day for a 1.6 diesel :(
    Well, paying was just daft. You'd buy a car for half that amount that would do for 10 days. Even paying a year's insurance.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    ffs i've just noticed the tax is up on it on monday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Jesus. wrote: »
    A friend of mine home from the US recently was charged 1.5k to hire out a Pug for 10 days. 150 quid a day for a 1.6 diesel :(

    Americans main mistakes.

    - They want to drive an Automatic

    - They book on a US Website which doesn't include the basic insurance as some North American credit cards cover this but many rental companies don't accept it so they have to get basic and then usually they'll take out excess cover as well.

    Was at a desk of a well known rental company in Dublin airport, I'd paid 11 euros per day was given a Ford Focus automatic (had booked the smallest car)

    An American lad next to me ended up paying 600 euros extra as the site he booked with didn't include any insurance at all so he had to take the rental companies.

    If your booking always book on a European website, if you see a particularly cheap rental quote via Kayak or something double check whats included very carefully !!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    endacl wrote: »
    Well, paying was just daft. You'd buy a car for half that amount that would do for 10 days. Even paying a year's insurance.

    :D

    He thought his USA insurance would cover him here but apparently every Country in the World would be covered except Ireland and India. So when they told him this he was standing at the desk in Dublin airport with wife & four kinds in tow. Should have found all this out before he left the States of course but by this time he couldn't go looking to buy a car :)

    What is it with Ireland & insurance that even other Country's companies don't want to touch us?
    Americans main mistakes.

    He's Irish ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Mazda 6
    Tigger wrote: »
    ffs i've just noticed the tax is up on it on monday

    Call them and explain that you'd like a "taxed Insignia type Insignia"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Jesus. wrote: »
    He thought his USA insurance would cover him here but apparently every Country in the World would be covered except Ireland and India. So when they told him this he was standing at the desk in Dublin airport with wife & four kinds in tow. Should have found all this out before he left the States of course but by this time he couldn't go looking to buy a car :)

    What is it with Ireland & insurance that even other Country's companies don't want to touch us?



    He's Irish ;)

    We drive on the wrong side of the road.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    Mazda 6
    Valetta wrote: »
    We drive on the wrong side of the road.

    To be honest I shouldn't have asked that question. Every single day at the airport roundabout I see new cars (rentals) going around it in the wrong lanes and I've seen many's a tip and near miss too. Its often the first roundabout Americans have ever seen and they don't know what to do.

    No wonder their insurance companies don't want to cover them!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    OSI wrote: »
    I would guarantee that's bull****. Not a hope his US insurance would cover him to drive any car in any country.

    Some Credit Cards have insurance that cover it for renting.

    Even some European cards have Insurance for renting:
    http://www.anwb.nl/creditcard/auto-huren

    ANWB Gold card covers 750 euros of own risk and also covers unfair charges with the rental company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    OSI wrote: »
    That's just excess cover, the same thing you can buy for 20quid. You'd still be required to pay for the hire companies insurance.

    Yes I know that, read above, some North American credit cards cover the whole thing, the Basic as well as the CDW.

    BTW If you can point me to an excess policy that covers you worldwide for 20 euros a year that would be awesome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mazda 6
    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Call them and explain that you'd like a "taxed Insignia type Insignia"
    they don';t have insignias
    they have jettas that they say are the same as insignias


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭megabantz


    Mazda 6
    Bounce that thing of the limiter and burn off as much of the tyres as possible.


    Burning rubber is exactly what you don't want to do unless you want to fork out for 4 brand new goodyear tyres?? :P

    I used to work in a car rental company and I was shocked to see people being charged 150 quid for a new tyre cause they "burned a little rubber"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    megabantz wrote: »
    Burning rubber is exactly what you don't want to do unless you want to fork out for 4 brand new goodyear tyres?? :P

    I used to work in a car rental company and I was shocked to see people being charged 150 quid for a new tyre cause they "burned a little rubber"

    Better you treat the rental as you would your own car, I've never had a problem, the one time there was damage that wasn't marked on the sheet they checked their records and it was pre-existing.

    It's clowns doing these sorts of things that ruin it for everyone else :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Mazda 6
    Better you treat the rental as you would your own car, I've never had a problem, the one time there was damage that wasn't marked on the sheet they checked their records and it was pre-existing.

    It's clowns doing these sorts of things that ruin it for everyone else :)

    Am I right in thinking that if you take the full insurance from the hire company that you can basically hand it back on its roof?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    mickdw wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking that if you take the full insurance from the hire company that you can basically hand it back on its roof?

    I had a friend do this once, it only covers accidental damage. It ended badly as it was Spain and apparently they have a load of insurance fraud there


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