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Sending email message to recruiter

  • 24-11-2015 1:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,

    basically i applied for a job several weeks ago, got a call back, sat the interview, never heard from said job again, no big deal in this day and age i guess.

    move on a week or two and the recruiter i met at the first interview, sent me a personal email to see would i be interested in going for a similar role in a different company that he was also tasked with recruiting for (as it turns out this fella recruits for a lot of similar businesses).

    anyway, naturally i said yes, sat that interview too just a number of days ago, so i guess it could still materialise into something.

    however, i was on a recruitment website today and seen another similar role in the same profession, in the same area (geographically) as the other two jobs too. i applied for it through the website, but i'm wondering should i email the recruiter whom i met initially to see if they have any association with it or would this be seen as untoward.

    see on one hand, i don't want to come across as untoward in general and it's probably not the done thing; but on the other hand "nothing ventured, nothing gained" and "it's not what you know, it's who you know" and all that and i really would like the job.

    i know this may seem trivial compared to some of the things in here, but any advice would be great.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    You're in no way obliged to just stick with one recruiter and not explore other options yourself, just be honest if they ask you. They should always notify you before putting you forward for a job anyway and it seems that they didn't with this one so its fair game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    i wouldn't worry about being 'untoward'. you're looking for a job. pursue every avenue you can. best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭purplekitty


    Go for it.... as a manager I appreciate any format of interest from potential employees. Don't be worried about going against your recruiter, I sometimes work with three or so agencies to try find the perfect applicant. Best of luck xxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    I worked for a recruitment agency (briefly) way back when, and I can tell you they're not called head-hunters for nothing. Most of them would buy and sell their own granny if they thought she was a suitable job applicant to put forward.

    To get a company to become a client of the recruitment firm, they will promise masses of highly and appropriately qualified applicants, whether they have them on their books or not. Many databases of people are filched from other recruitment firms, and these people are considered "on the books" whether they knew they were there or not. A significant amount of time was spent cold-calling complete strangers to try and get personal info like their present salary/current qualifications out of them, with the hopes of persuading them to be put forward for interview by a client (who they had already told they had enough qualified personnel for - hence the "head hunter" moniker).

    Just sayin', so you don't feel some misguided loyalty towards any recruitment firm. I hate to break it to you, but sometimes they'll just be making up numbers of applicants - having promised 4, they have to provide 4, for example....even when knowing full well that there's only 1 (if any) who meet the company's criteria. Best of luck with your interview, but don't be shy to go with them all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Perhaps I should have been clearer.

    Originally I only applied for one job, that I seen on a work/ jobs classified ads style website.

    I applied for that job with Company X, got called for an interview and met with the recruiter (Mr. Z) that Company X had hired to review applicants. Anyway, I never heard back from company at all.

    Some time later, Mr. Z emails me and says would I like to interview for a similar role with another firm Company Y, that he recruits for. Naturally I would, went for the interview, think it went well tbh.

    Now seen a third business in the same field in the same area, I was initially wondering in the OP should I ask Mr. Z does he know anything about the job and could he get me a foot in the door or should I jist not contact him as I don't really know him and apply online.

    Alas, I didn't contact Mr. Z and applied for the job through the website I seen it advertised on and when I got the gratuity confirmation email, it was signed off with, "thanks for your application, Mr. Z".

    Do you think this will compromise my potential to obtain the position with Company Y somehow? Should I email Mr. Z to say I applied in retrospect. All I really want is the job and I think *touch wood*i'm a reasonable candidate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    If Mr Z thinks the company will hire you he won't care that you applied through the website. He'll get his commission and that's what he cares about. I've applied for a lot of jobs and would never assume a recruiter would know anything about a job unless it was on the recruitment company they work for. You are totally overthinking this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Is the job being advertised through the same recruitment company Mr x works for? If not then no don't contact him as it's nothing to do with him.

    I agree you're overthinking it massively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    The only reason he contacted you about the second job is that you were fresh in his mind. He'll be dealing with hundreds of people so he won't be upset about you not calling him in relation to this new job. If he recognises you or your name at all he'll just be like 'oh yeah, that person'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Sorry, I'm a bit confused - is the same recruiter also hiring for the 3rd role? If not, then it's nothing to do with him. Tell him you have other irons in the fire by all means, but don't ask can he help you get in the door of a company he's not hiring for.

    Recruiters find people for jobs, not the other way around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yes, Mr. Z is also recruiting for the third role.

    To simply further -

    I applied for a job, got called for an interview and met the companies recruiter when i attended the interview. never heard back from that job.

    around a week later, the recruiter whom i met at the previous interview sends me a personal email asking would i like to interview for position they are looking to fill with another company (very similar position to what i previously interviewed for). Naturally, i said yes, attended that interview too.

    Now on a recruitment website, i see another position i could be suitable for (similar working role to the first two and geographically close), with a company that isn't either of the first two, but the recruiters name is the same. so clearly this person is recruiting for several companies who specialise in the same product in the local area.

    what i was wondering is would it be ok, to send him an email back to his personal email address saying i applied for the third position through the website but i seen his name attached to the application and could he do anything to get me an interview there too. obviously i'm just trying to get an interview, but would this not be the done thing? would it come across as cockey/ annoying etc? really i just want the job.

    would this be better suited to the work and jobs forum, in hindsight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Ah gotcha. Seems strange he wouldn't contact you about the third role if it was a good match, but you've nothing at all to lose by following up with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Honestly, recruiters are in the business of commission. They dont give a rats about finding you a job. They only care about filling positions to get commission. They basically work for any company recruiting - and not you.

    I don't think you've crossed any lines, but even if you had, I doubt that he'd care as long as he got his commission. That sounds v cynical, but it's honest reality from my experience.

    I think fire away and email if you wish. My only thing would be that you seem to be way too invested & over-analytical re a job that might not be real (another 'classic' agency move). Just mind yourself and your hopes. Tbh, I'd watch watch agencies your cv is with. Some are well known in my industry for being total chancers, and cvs they send in are pretty much binned.


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