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Permanent disability allowance means permanent rent allowance?

  • 22-11-2015 11:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭


    I'm in the process of renting a place currently and have a nice couple come to view it, one of whom is on permanent disability allowance and his wife is his carer.

    My question is: considering this person is on a permanent disability allowance and therefore unable to work, is my assumption correct that the rent allowance would also therefore be permanently qualified?
    They are happy to pay the RA directly to me and they set up a standing order for their portion.

    Thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    if this person has a low income,
    they,l l get rent allowance.
    Person on disability should be , will be on the housing list.
    They,ll get priority from the council for a 1 or 2bed home.
    They will at some point be offered a house or flat by the local authority.
    Rent allowance is designed for people on low income,
    you could be on it for 10 years but its not supposed to be Permanent.
    in theory everyone will get off ra,at some point
    either they will get a job,or they get council housing.
    maybe ask for a letter from the doctor ,
    this person has a medical condition .
    which means they are eligible for disability allowance.
    you have to be on the local authority housing list to even apply for rent allowance.
    i know someone on ra for 12 years they live in a house near athlone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Thanks - yeh they have shown me their disability paperwork and the case officer at the social welfare office.
    I was thinking the same as you - everyone comes off RA 'eventually', if they are able to work or are offered a house - but in theory if you are on permanent disability benefit (they lost an eye, so it's not up for debate IMHO), you would be on RA indefinitely, or you get offered a social house.
    Either way, the rent is paid up to the point they leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I've a friend who has a permanent disability and was kicked off the housing list, not on the housing list no RA, they've been told that they shouldn't have been kicked off but still can't get back onto the housing list. Don't ever assume anything is permanent when dealing with people who can't be fired.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Mod note OP I think this thread is more suited to State Benefits, let me know if you want us to move it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Thats fine Mod, you can move it over thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Moved from A&P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I,m not a welfare expert ,
    there could be reasons someone can,t get on the housing list ,
    or get ra.
    They might be living in a 3bed house with their mother ,
    or a girlfriend .eg not really in need of housing .
    or maybe have 50k in the bank.
    http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/rent_faq.aspx

    Not every person on disability allowance can get ra.
    da just means this person is not capable of working for medical reasons .
    you could be living in large house in d4 and get disability allowance .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I agree and you are correct.

    In the case in point though, none of those are the situation.

    this person is now on permanent DA and in receipt of RA. His disability is clear also and is certainly permanent.
    My assumption is that (barring a change in RA rules, or he gets a social house), he would qualify for RA indefinitely and I could choose him as a tenant in my house, without much worry over rent payment as he is v happy for it to be paid directly to me. They seem like really nice people, but the most important part of any tenancy is choosing the right one on day 1, so I want to ensure I have my facts in order.
    Tks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭haveringchick


    sk8board wrote: »
    I agree and you are correct.

    In the case in point though, none of those are the situation.

    this person is now on permanent DA and in receipt of RA. His disability is clear also and is certainly permanent.
    My assumption is that (barring a change in RA rules, or he gets a social house), he would qualify for RA indefinitely and I could choose him as a tenant in my house, without much worry over rent payment as he is v happy for it to be paid directly to me. They seem like really nice people, but the most important part of any tenancy is choosing the right one on day 1, so I want to ensure I have my facts in order.
    Tks

    Actually rent supplement is currently being phased out to be replaced by a payment called HAP
    SW will no longer be dealing with claimants rent, it will become the sole responsibility of the Local Authorities
    It is already being rolled out across the country for all new claimants except a couple of particular circumstances
    The LA terms and conditions will be very similar but not identical
    There's no 100% garantee that your tenants will remain entitled to either RA or HAP
    People are removed from the housing list all the time. For all sorts of reasons
    Sometimes in error
    What you need to do if you want to be garanteed at least a fixed period is to speak to your local authority Housing Officer about being considered for RAS or HAP


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