Tyrrelstown

Guess_Who

Hey.

I'm looking to buy a house in the new year with a budget of approx €200 €225k. I've seen a few come up in my price range in Tyrrelstown but I don't know the area very well.

Can anyone give me an idea of what it's like there? And are they all private estates? Just wondering if I'll need to factor in management fees etc.

Thanks a mill

athtrasna

Moved from A&P.

OP you should consider renting in the area before thinking about buying in an area you don't know. Even Airbnb for a few weeks. Best research you can do.

BabysCoffee

I have a few friends who live in Tyrrelstown and are very content.

Personally I like the look of the place. There are large greens and different types of houses to choose from. One of my friends owns a 2 bed apt which has a nice layout and is a really generous size.

I think it is a very attractive well thought out estate. I particularly like the brick fronted houses as you enter towards the village/shopping area.

Gererreh Tona

There is a very large African population there, yes, I'm sure that makes me a racist or some other such bs for pointing out but the more information you have on the area the better.

ThisRegard

Maybe not racist, but definitely an idiot. It's typical of everywhere in west Dublin, north and south. What's your point?

It's a nice area, relatively quiet and well maintained but do factor in management fees as it's a private estate.

Gererreh Tona

What's wrong with having as much information on the area as possible? It's well known there is a much higher % of Africans living there than most other Dublin suburbs. I can't post links but there's an Irish Times article online from 2012 highlighting that over 40% of the Tyrrelstown population were born outside Ireland. This will mean living among a lot of different cultures/lifestyles which might not be to everyone's personal taste - and there is nothing racist/idiotic about that. I've reported your post anyway for personal abuse.

ThisRegard

Report away.

People come and go, a lot has changed in the 4 or 5 years since the survey was commissioned.

You still haven't told me what the point you're trying to make is?

Zaph

Gererreh Tona wrote: »

There is a very large African population there, yes, I'm sure that makes me a racist or some other such bs for pointing out but the more information you have on the area the better.

So what? Would it be different if they were all white Eastern Europeans?

ThisRegard wrote: »

Maybe not racist, but definitely an idiot. It's typical of everywhere in west Dublin, north and south. What's your point?

It's a nice area, relatively quiet and well maintained but do factor in management fees as it's a private estate.

I concur that the point being made is idiotic, but please don't let yourself be dragged down to that level because it only ended up with you picking up the warning.

Gererreh Tona wrote: »

What's wrong with having as much information on the area as possible? It's well known there is a much higher % of Africans living there than most other Dublin suburbs. I can't post links but there's an Irish Times article online from 2012 highlighting that over 40% of the Tyrrelstown population were born outside Ireland. This will mean living among a lot of different cultures/lifestyles which might not be to everyone's personal taste - and there is nothing racist/idiotic about that. I've reported your post anyway for personal abuse.

Telling someone you've reported their post is just dickish and unnecessary. Might be worth remembering for the next time.

OK, so now that we've gotten all that out of our systems could we please get back to discussing the topic in a civil manner. Thank you.

Guess_Who

Thanks for the responses.

I've lived abroad a few times so being multi cultural doesn't bother me as long as an area is fairly quiet and well kept I'm happy.

Without having been for a viewing this http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/tyrrelstown/16-the-boulevard-tyrrelstown-dublin-1124507/ looks like pretty good value.

Anyone know what traffic is like getting to the M50 in the mornings?

ThisRegard

Traffic is fine getting to the M50, of course that's dependent on it there's any incidents that may have an affect on the N3 or N2, depending on what direction you're travelling in.

Might be worth looking further into the area too, there's a whole variety and layouts that would be worth investigating.

athtrasna

You should also Google the area. The Lidl has been held up more times than I care to remember and the management company has taken residents to court over non payment. Issues like this will affect you as an owner. Again I suggest a short term let before you consider investing so much money.

Guess_Who

athtrasna wrote: »

You should also Google the area. The Lidl has been held up more times than I care to remember and the management company has taken residents to court over non payment. Issues like this will affect you as an owner. Again I suggest a short term let before you consider investing so much money.

Definitely good to know. I'll definitely consider Air bnb & be doing a lot more research before I commit to anything

My brother is renting there the last two years and he thinks it's fine at the moment. But he wouldn't buy as he thinks as the kids are getting older anti social behaviour is on the rise.

I lived there for 3 months and found it fine and I like the look of the area.

Guess_Who

Guess_Who wrote: »

Thanks for the responses.

I've lived abroad a few times so being multi cultural doesn't bother me as long as an area is fairly quiet and well kept I'm happy.

Without having been for a viewing this http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/tyrrelstown/16-the-boulevard-tyrrelstown-dublin-1124507/ looks like pretty good value.

Anyone know what traffic is like getting to the M50 in the mornings?

You'll hit traffic on the N3 getting onto the M50

ThisRegard

athtrasna wrote: »

You should also Google the area. The Lidl has been held up more times than I care to remember and the management company has taken residents to court over non payment. Issues like this will affect you as an owner. Again I suggest a short term let before you consider investing so much money.

How many times? You're exaggerating pretty rotten.

And do research into the management situation. There's a number of management agents and committees. The idiot socialist party led one bunch of residents down a merry road by telling them they didn't have to pay. A test case was brought and you can guess the rest. You think it's fine not to pay the fees you've signed a contract to agree to pay?

athtrasna

ThisRegard wrote: »

How many times? You're exaggerating pretty rotten.

I'm not exaggerating. More times than I care to remember means exactly that.

ThisRegard

So twice, three? How high up can you remember?

That's the problem with threads like this, people who don't actually live there hear a couple of things, a bit of idle gossip, and then, to be frank, talk out their arse with some air of authority when giving 'advice' about it.

Would you be happy for anyone looking to live in your area to base their opinion on it from what they've read in this forum, including the stuff you've posted?

thierry14

Fine to rent, but wouldn't buy.

It's rough enough in parts and getting worse imo

Never see any guardai around and teenage population growing fast.

It's good the bar is still closed, could be a disaster with the young population.

Hollystown nearby is nice though.

ThisRegard

Just because I've only posted, but you see the gardai daily as part of their routine patrols, even on bikes. There's no particular rough areas in it, I run it pretty much daily during the evenings and night.

You know there's pubs in most areas around the country, some, gasp, even have their own teenage population. Won't someone think of the teenagers!

Jesus christ, move to a retirement home if you're afraid of teenagers.

VeVeX

athtrasna wrote: »

I'm not exaggerating. More times than I care to remember means exactly that.

The sole responsibility for these robberies rests with Lidl and policing of the area not the residents.

In all likelihood the perpetrators are not from the area and the store is being held up regularly because its seen as an easy target. Unless the Garda are in the area there's virtually no chance of them being caught and the ease of getaway is unparalleled in the Blanchardstown area.

amdublin

Ongar dunnes was held up while my husband was at the till - right beside the perpetrators. It's been held up before I believe.

Does that make ongar a bad place to live? Nope imo. I'm sure the tescos in balls bridge has been held up at some point in its life too.

Larbre34

A Tesco? In actual Ballsbridge? The very idea.


As for Tyrrellstown, I have two friends who are owner occupiers from new, 10/12 years ago, one in Ballentree the other in Mount Eustace. Both have experienced much higher than normal levels of burglary, car vandalism, illegal dumping on property and in skips they hired, anti-social behaviour and noise issues around their locations. They also complained of too many homes being turned over to the social services and Council to place people in, which lead to overcrowding and consequent problems from particular houses.

I remember having a look at the first of Tyrrellstown being built back in 2001/02 because I'm in that industry and it interested me, and I thought it was a very poor concept that created too many back lanes, hidey-holes, blind spots and exposed properties. Traffic safety in it is poor too due to blind alleys, tight corners and cars parked where they shouldn't be. Also the two lads tell me they have awful problems with management companies and fees and responsibility for upkeep.

Im sure there are great people in it, its a growing community and of course I don't live there, but the two lads I know would both be out of it if they could afford to.

AlanG

I lived in Tyrrelstown for several years. If you don't have to take public transport to town it is one of the best value areas you could move to. The houses are generally well built, the layout is nice and the houses are big for the era. Mostly it is a quiet area and the array of services, clubs and schools is far superior to almost anything built at the time. As with any area of its age there are now a good few teenagers so this intimidates some people who don't remember bring a teenager.
As it is a nice residential area surrounded by a lot of technical and light industry it is something of a jobs hotspot and easy to rent if you change your mind. There is a good mix of people in the area and a lot of community activity.

The worst things about the area are the morning bus into town if you work on the south side and the high turnover of units in the village apparently caused by the ridiculous rents the owners insist on charging.

beer enigma

ThisRegard wrote: »

Traffic is fine getting to the M50, of course that's dependent on it there's any incidents that may have an affect on the N3 or N2, depending on what direction you're travelling in.

Might be worth looking further into the area too, there's a whole variety and layouts that would be worth investigating.

I've rented there for just over two years and work at the airport - very rare I have an issue with traffic, N2 Ashbourne Road onto the M50 is very good & there are plenty of cut through routes in the event of accidents.

The area itself I find very good, clean, well maintained & fortunately have seen very little in the way of antisocial behaviour. Its a mixed community, mainly African, Polish but a good spread of Irish too.

Couple of green areas, one near the pond which has recently been cut back & appears zoned with tape, so not sure if there's development work going in there & also a small playpark for the kids.

You have the Lidl (which I've never seen robbed) and a Supervalu. The pub has been closed for about 8+ months which is a pain as it only leaves the Hotel for a pint & there's no real atmosphere there. Couple of restaurants recently closed but both re-opening as Chinese, there's a Pizza Hut & a chipper, chemist & a bookies as well as an off licence so not too bad.

Tyrellstown school, crèche & small gym.

Transport wise, it suffers, there's the 40D bus into town (about an hour) with the last bus back around 22:30 - there is a nightbus on Saturday and you have the 238 which runs to Blanchardstown. Nothing sadly towards the airport, but whilst that impacts me, it may not you.

All in all, I'm happy there

gabsdot40

My kids go to school in Tyrrelstown and I have friends who live there. It's nice and has a nice community feel to it. However as with many newer houses they aren't built very well. For your budget you could buy a better built house in Mulhuddart or Huntstown with more garden space and off road parking.

AlanG

gabsdot40 wrote: »

However as with many newer houses they aren't built very well. For your budget you could buy a better built house in Mulhuddart or Huntstown

Have to disagree - there were four different builders involved in Tyrrelstown. I am very familiar with houses built by two of them and they are actually very well built and insulated. The ones I am familiar with were built between 2002 and 2004, cant speak for any others but I have drilled, repaired and altered ones of that period and they were well put together.

Kai123

Would anyone know of any noise issues in the Ballintree area?

I always liked the look of that area specifically and a nice apt has recently popped up in that area. If its as nice and quiet as it looks I will be happy to jump at it.

mobileforest

Kai123 wrote: »

Would anyone know of any noise issues in the Ballintree area?

I always liked the look of that area specifically and a nice apt has recently popped up in that area. If its as nice and quiet as it looks I will be happy to jump at it.

Depends on your definition of noise. If you mean traffic or even the frequent planes flying overhead, then no, they aren't a problem. If you mean, the noise you get from having an area safe enough for the piles of kids who play in and around the estate then yes, lots of noise. But I like to think that's a good kind of noise.

Legomen

We are a young family with kids and thinking about buying in Tyrrelstown. Houses looks like good value for money in the area at the moment and it looks well served by schools and sport clubs. Generally speaking, is it a good place to raise kids in terms of parks/activities, more families with kids they can be friends with, quality of schools and such?

It seems to be divided on 7 areas. Mount Garrett, Bellgree, Boulevard, Ballentree, Bealing, Rathemore and Cruise Park. Are they all pretty much the same for things like safety, quality of houses, clean streets, quite or noise streets or is there any area that is more recommendable or that should be avoided than other?

AlanG

Hi,
for the price Tyrrelstown is probably the best place to buy in Dublin. It is very well serviced with schools and parks and there are lots of clubs. The Village is ok but for some reason the developers seem to keep the rent high which causes a lot of failures in the shops. It is a pretty safe area and there is a good mix of people, many of whom are involved in community groups and clubs. You also have a bus to town and the nightlink.

The areas are all much the same, it is more the house type that influences resident types. From what I saw the 4 bed houses have a higher proportion of renters than the smaller homes so have been slightly less settled. That said only about 4 or 5 of the larger houses have been available on daft in the last 6 months so that shows how settled the area is.

In my opinion if you want a family home in the 200-250k range in Dublin you will not do better than Tyrrelstown. The main drawback for the area is the bus service to town. It takes about 45 to 55 mins to get to Parnell street and if you work south side you can add another 20 minutes walk onto your commute. It will drive you nuts if you have to commute to the south side of town in the mornings from Tyrrelstown. That said if they link the 40D up with the new Luas in broombridge it may no longer be a problem.

Legomen

Thank you very much for all the info AlanG. I'm glad to read positive stuff about the area. I'll try to set some house viewings during the week and to spend some time on it at different times of the day.