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Salary Increase - Deadline on answer?

  • 17-11-2015 10:27am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭


    Is it acceptable to give your employer a deadline when asking for a salary increase?

    " I am looking for X amount, I need an answer in x amount of weeks"

    Is it a bit cheeky?

    Only reason i ask is any question where i work at the moment has a tendency to not be answered for months on end.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    So what's the consequence if they don't answer - will you leave?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    "I need an answer"

    "Why?"

    "..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    So what's the consequence if they don't answer - will you leave?

    I'm not going to say , if i don't get an answer i'm walking, but yes if i don't get an answer in a few weeks or it goes on and on for months like everything else, then i will be looking elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    3DataModem wrote: »
    "I need an answer"

    "Why?"

    "..."


    Because i deserve it and i would rather get an answer sooner rather than later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    It's a loaded gun.

    Either you will get the raise because you are valuable to the employer or you won't get it and you will have put a target on your back. IMO the second you give an ultimatum to your employer you have thrashed the relationship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Tzardine wrote: »
    It's a loaded gun.

    Either you will get the raise because you are valuable to the employer or you won't get it and you will have put a target on your back. IMO the second you give an ultimatum to your employer you have thrashed the relationship.

    I see your point here, but I know if i do ask I know for a fact i will not get an answer for weeks, even months.

    Not until i bring it up, I will ask and I'll get the "oh i haven't heard anything i'll look into this and follow up" then the follow up will go on for weeks if not months until i bring it up again.

    My supervisor will say it's not his decision go to the manager, Manager will give the same answer and won't get involved and tell me to go to HR and HR is the problem here, they just don't communicate back on anything.

    It ends up like me looking like i'm hounding them and i feel makes myself look bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Idioteque


    It depends on a few things, some of which I've listed below...

    - How did you approach the request of the raise? In my experience you would want to have a list of achievements over the past year that show you have gone above and beyond what is expected of you. If you just asked for a raise without much reason why, then putting a time-limit will probably just get you a quick no.
    Related to the above would be if you accepted the role/salary because you needed it badly but it involves more work than you were initially led to believe (again you would need to back this up with evidence)


    -Have you benchmarked your salary against people in similar roles in your company (not always possible obviously) or at least against similar roles in other companies?

    - The formality of relationship with your boss. If the raise is justified, you could informally ask when you might have an answer and remind your boss in your next catch-up or after a couple of weeks.
    If it's more formal, I'd put the request in without a timelimit, then follow-up after 2 weeks and gradually push harder for an answer after that.

    Hope that helps. If it's any consolation, in my experience, the best way to get a decent raise is to move roles. The amount of times I speak to colleagues who thinks they are worth much more €€€ rarely get a raise or if they do, in the majority of cases it would be quite small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Idioteque wrote: »
    It depends on a few things, some of which I've listed below...

    - How did you approach the request of the raise? In my experience you would want to have a list of achievements over the past year that show you have gone above and beyond what is expected of you. If you just asked for a raise without much reason why, then putting a time-limit will probably just get you a quick no.
    Related to the above would be if you accepted the role/salary because you needed it badly but it involves more work than you were initially led to believe (again you would need to back this up with evidence)


    -Have you benchmarked your salary against people in similar roles in your company (not always possible obviously) or at least against similar roles in other companies?

    - The formality of relationship with your boss. If the raise is justified, you could informally ask when you might have an answer and remind your boss in your next catch-up or after a couple of weeks.
    If it's more formal, I'd put the request in without a timelimit, then follow-up after 2 weeks and gradually push harder for an answer after that.

    Hope that helps. If it's any consolation, in my experience, the best way to get a decent raise is to move roles. The amount of times I speak to colleagues who thinks they are worth much more €€€ rarely get a raise or if they do, in the majority of cases it would be quite small.

    This helps a lot, yes i'm not just walking in and demanding a raise, i have everything prepared, pretty much all the above you said.

    I'll take all your advice and see what happens sure, I'm happy enough here, a small raise is all i'm after for now, i know if i'm to look for big increase that another job is the only way to go.

    Thank you very much for going into all the detail.

    Much Appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Idioteque


    No worries, best of luck with it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Because i deserve it and i would rather get an answer sooner rather than later

    Look around for another job, if you get an offer approach your boss and see if he'll March it.


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