Planet X pro carbon frame water ingress.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 6:43pm #1

After a one hour spin in the rain my frame has a lot of water swishing around in the frame. It must be getting in some place but can't seem to see where it may be getting in. My other bikes have a hole below the BB to let it out but the PX don't have it. I have to move it around, turn it upside down and release it out the seat post. Any one experience this issue? Thanks.

koutoubia · 15-11-2015 6:59pm

Mark your seatpost with a bit of tape so you know the height.
Take out you seatpost and drain out the water the lash a load of some sort of grease inside the seatpost tube and some on the seatpost.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 7:03pm

koutoubia wrote: »

Mark your seatpost with a bit of tape so you know the height.
Take out you seatpost and drain out the water the lash a load of some sort of grease inside the seatpost tube and some on the seatpost.

Meaning that it's getting in the seat post to the frame?

Raam · 15-11-2015 7:10pm

It's normal for some water to seep in somewhere. I wouldn't be worried.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 7:16pm

Raam wrote: »

It's normal for some water to seep in somewhere. I wouldn't be worried.

This was a lot tho. Recken at least half a bottle. I have a Eston seat post open at the top and that's prime location so far.

Raam · 15-11-2015 7:28pm

breanach78 wrote: »

This was a lot tho. Recken at least half a bottle. I have a Eston seat post open at the top and that's prime location so far.

There has been a lot of water down lately

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 7:39pm

Raam wrote: »

There has been a lot of water down lately

Very true! Just don't want to go tho this every time I go out over the winter.

koutoubia · 15-11-2015 8:01pm

If there are no drain holes under the BB then more then likely ( if no mudgards are being used) then probably dripping down through the seatpost but also the grease stops the seatpost fusing to the frame.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:13pm

koutoubia wrote: »

If there are no drain holes under the BB then more then likely ( if no mudgards are being used) then probably dripping down through the seatpost but also the grease stops the seatpost fusing to the frame.

No drain holes. Used carbon paste on the seat post.

koutoubia · 15-11-2015 8:18pm

Are there no drain holes on the chainstays?

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:20pm

koutoubia wrote: »

Are there no drain holes on the chainstays?

Not that I noticed.

Raam · 15-11-2015 8:20pm

breanach78 wrote: »

Very true! Just don't want to go tho this every time I go out over the winter.

Might it have been collecting for a while unnoticed?

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:20pm

breanach78 wrote: »

Not that I noticed.

I'll have a look now tho.

Eamonnator · 15-11-2015 8:29pm

breanach78 wrote: »

Not that I noticed.

There are. one under each chain stay.

youtheman · 15-11-2015 8:33pm

I have a Planet X RT57 bike and I just counted 7 drain holes in the carbon frame, 2 under the chain stay, 2 near the bottom of the rear stay, 1 near the bottom of the sloped main tube and 2 at the bottom of the front forks.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:33pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

There are. one under each chain stay.

Thanks. They may be blocked, update in 5!

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:48pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

There are. one under each chain stay.

Two at the end of the chain stay bars but they are higher that the BB but don't know how they could drain anything away.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 8:49pm

youtheman wrote: »

I have a Planet X RT57 bike and I just counted 7 drain holes in the carbon frame, 2 under the chain stay, 2 near the bottom of the rear stay, 1 near the bottom of the sloped main tube and 2 at the bottom of the front forks.

Thanks. This is prob an early version of the Pro.

Wishbone Ash · 15-11-2015 9:03pm

breanach78 wrote: »

Two at the end of the chain stay bars but they are higher that the BB but don't know how they could drain anything away.

I just hang the bikes up vertically for a few minutes after a long wet ride and let the water drip out.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 9:07pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I just hang the bikes up vertically for a few minutes after a long wet ride and let the water drip out.

Thanks, prob a good idea.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 9:15pm

Well I dried and taped up the points where I think it may be getting in, expansion ring at back of seat post and opens at top of aftermarket seat post, to see if that makes a difference. I think I read somewhere early PX had some design flaws so maybe a lack of a drain point around BB is one. There is a vid on YouTube of some Irish guy very disappointed with a nr2 with water in the frame, wonder how he got on?

Eamonnator · 15-11-2015 9:31pm

I have a Planet X Carbon Pro.
During the week, I installed a new BB and greased the headset. So everything was dry, when I'd finished.
This morning, I did 3 hours on the bike. We had to turn back at one stage, because of floods on the road. We cycled through three or four other floods.
When I read your post, I did a good check on my bike. I held the bike up, front wheel in the air. Then I took out the seat post, and turned bike upside down.
In total, about half an egg cup drained out.
I don't know, if this is any help to you.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 9:36pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

I have a Planet X Carbon Pro.
During the week, I installed a new BB and greased the headset. So everything was dry, when I'd finished.
This morning, I did 3 hours on the bike. We had to turn back at one stage, because of floods on the road. We cycled through three or four other floods.
When I read your post, I did a good check on my bike. I held the bike up, front wheel in the air. Then I took out the seat post, and turned bike upside down.
In total, about half an egg cup drained out.
I don't know, if this is any help to you.

It does thanks. As I said above I taped a few spot do hopefully, it's a winter bike so not to worried but none of my other bike have this issue. That said they may take in water but I feel they drain it out too.

Plastik · 15-11-2015 9:40pm

After a wet spin I used stand my SL Pro on it's back wheel outside for a minute and a lot would drain out the rear stays. Another spot for ingress on them is where the FD cable exits the frame at the BB, there's no seal around the cable/hole.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 9:51pm

Plastik wrote: »

After a wet spin I used stand my SL Pro on it's back wheel outside for a minute and a lot would drain out the rear stays. Another spot for ingress on them is where the FD cable exits the frame at the BB, there's no seal around the cable/hole.

Have you noted any other drain points? I noted what you mentioned but I think it's the seat post as it getting hit consistently with water from the back wheel.

Plastik · 15-11-2015 9:58pm

No just in the rear stays from memory. Don't have the frame anymore so can't check for you.

breanach78 · 15-11-2015 10:10pm

Plastik wrote: »

No just in the rear stays from memory. Don't have the frame anymore so can't check for you.

Thanks buddy.

Harrybelafonte · 06-12-2015 12:16am

Emptied a cup full of water from my PX nanolight this morning... No idea how it got in there tbh

breanach78 · 27-12-2015 3:35pm

Hey, update in this. Over the last few weeks I have been out and I think I have the issue resolved.
I used black insulting tape to neatly tape up the entry points that I tho may be the problem. If you stretch the tape and o it neatly one won't notice it.
The point were, bolt holes on either side and the bottom it the carbon seat post. The main one is was the keyhole slot just below the cramp. Water seems to hit this band on.
Anyhow lots of wet rides and great reduced water ingress, just a few drops. Result!
Hope this may help a few out there!

Planet X pro carbon frame water ingress.

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