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Church Pews Vs Chairs ...
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13-11-2015 01:46PM#1
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I really don't care either way. However, the good thing about pews is that in a packed church (yes, I sometimes go to a packed church!! Are you unChristianly jealous?
) you can skootch up and fit more people in. You can't leave elderly people or parents with babies standing for an hour or more. Hard to do that with chairs. 0 -
La Fenetre wrote: »What's a pew ?
Please LordSutch/La Fenetre, accept my apologies but some things are just ...
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In the last few years it has become trendy for many parish Church's to ditch their ancient pews in favour of chairs! This phenomenon seems to have started in England & has now spread here, via Scotland & Northern Ireland. But can it be right to 'rip out' these ancient* bespoke made to measure pews, and replace them with brandnspanking shiny new chairs :cool:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8813427/Ripping-the-pews-out-of-the-church.html
Can this be right?
Are ye for or against?
*ancient = sometimes..
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Handy for snoozing away those interminable sermons.Kylan Elegant Spectacle wrote: »A comfortable armchair is my favourite.
Pews are fixed seating in a church. Sometimes they are physically fixed to the floor; sometimes they are too large and heavy to be moved conveniently, so they might as well be fixed.La Fenetre wrote: »What's a pew ?
They come in two kinds; benches, which aer what you see in most Catholic churches in Ireland, and box pews, which are basically short benches enclosed in a box, and accessed by a little door or gate. Often people will reserve the word "pew" for a box pew, and just call the other kind "benches".
In times past, a common way of supporting a parish financially was for a family to rent a pew - usually a box pew. They paid a regular subscription tor the parish, and in return received either an exclusive right, or a priority right, to occupy a particular pew. This practice fell into disfavour in the second half of the nineteenth century, as it was seen as exclusive and privileged. It enjoyed something of a boost in the Church of Ireland when tithes were abolished and alternative sources of income had to be found, but the long term trend could not be stopped.
Box pews are expensive to install, and they are inconvenient for cleaning and maintaining the church. I doubt that any church built now, or at any time in the past hundred years, has box pews. Those that remain are likely to be considered to have historical value.
Bench pews are also expensive, but not as expensive as box pews, and for church cleaning, etc, they are not as inconvenient as box pews. Their principal attraction is that the maximise the seating capacity of the church - you can seat more people on benches than you can either in box pews or on chairs. They are also very durable, and easy to maintain.
Chairs are the cheapest option to install; also the most flexible, if you want to use the space for other purposes, or if you want to rearrange the seating depending on the nature of the service and the expected size of the congregation. But they are quite high maintenance, especially if upholstered, and they will need replacement well before pews of either kind.0 -
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Where the bum goes ... the heart usually follows !!!:)Jellybaby1 wrote: »Though its not only the bums we want......'tis the heart too!0 -
Where the bum goes ... the heart usually follows !!!:)
Well, you would think. But that doesn't always happen. Sometimes the heart lies elsewhere, in fact when a bum is in church sometimes the heart yearns to be anywhere other than where it actually is. But it might depend on the preacher's skills, or lack thereof! 0 -
Over time the bum always follows the heart ... or sometimes it's the other way around.Jellybaby1 wrote: »Well, you would think. But that doesn't always happen. Sometimes the heart lies elsewhere, in fact when a bum is in church sometimes the heart yearns to be anywhere other than where it actually is. But it might depend on the preacher's skills, or lack thereof!
Either way, over time, the bum and the heart tend to accompany each other !!!;)0 -
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Cushions?
That sort of seating is only acceptable in a religious setting. First off the back of the seating is at 90 degrees to the seat itself and there is no lumbar support. Imagine cinemas, theatres offering that standard of seating, and yet people accept it in a religious setting. It's high time church seating moved into the 21st century, even if it's only to add some reclining angles and lumbar support to wooden pews.
However, some might see this seating as a form of penance, good for the soul etc.,0 -
Over time the bum always follows the heart ... or sometimes it's the other way around.
Either way, over time, the bum and the heart tend to accompany each other !!!;)
Ah but you are speaking in the physical sense, whereas I am speaking in the spiritual sense.Cushions?steamengine wrote: »That sort of seating is only acceptable in a religious setting. First off the back of the seating is at 90 degrees to the seat itself and there is no lumbar support. Imagine cinemas, theatres offering that standard of seating, and yet people accept it in a religious setting. It's high time church seating moved into the 21st century, even if it's only to add some reclining angles and lumbar support to wooden pews.
However, some might see this seating as a form of penance, good for the soul etc.,
Y,know I think I recognise those pews!
Well we are indeed discussing pews in a religious setting. You are right of course, the backs are too straight and the designer was obviously unacquainted with Health & Safety rules! The other problems with comfy cushions, is that the worshipper may be inclined to snooze! Goodness, can't have that now, can we? I'm lovin' this thread!!! 0 -
Jellybaby1 wrote: »The other problems with comfy cushions, is that the worshipper may be inclined to snooze! Goodness, can't have that now, can we? I'm lovin' this thread!!!
Bless you my child.
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200 year old tiles covered by carpet throughout the Church, from the entrance right up to the Communion rail.
200 year old Pews removed & disposed of... to be replaced with modern stackable wooden chairs.
Beautiful brass light fittings (warm light) to be replaced with bright LED spot lights.
Why?
Because it's time to modernise (change for the sake of change).
I wish I could stop it from happening to our lovely Church, but I can't
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