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I have slatted shed but no cattle

  • 10-11-2015 11:38am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭


    I have a slatted shed and 200 bales of silage but no cattle.
    I had a man that wanted to take it but the rent does not sound great. It basically only covers the cost of the silage.
    Should I buy cattle myself for the winter on till the silage is gone . What kinda cattle should I buy r should I just rent it out? I have no grass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    Bit more info might be helpful....

    What's your own situation? Have you farmed previously? Do you have a herd number? Not sure I would be buying in cattle just for the sole reason of eating silage and making use of a shed...unless of course you had an interest anyway and had some experience....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Well, better idle than a busy fool. Guy that works for me is still looking to get paid for his sheds and 400 bales of silage from last year. He fed the stock and did all testing and arranged vet etc.

    serious financial blow, reckons he'll never see the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    _Brian wrote: »
    Well, better idle than a busy fool. Guy that works for me is still looking to get paid for his sheds and 400 bales of silage from last year. He fed the stock and did all testing and arranged vet etc.

    serious financial blow, reckons he'll never see the money.

    Jesus....that kind of carry on is sickening! He won't be caught again though I'd say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    wallycool wrote: »
    I have a slatted shed and 200 bales of silage but no cattle.
    I had a man that wanted to take it but the rent does not sound great. It basically only covers the cost of the silage.
    Should I buy cattle myself for the winter on till the silage is gone . What kinda cattle should I buy r should I just rent it out? I have no grass

    What part of the country are you in wally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭wallycool


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Bit more info might be helpful....

    What's your own situation? Have you farmed previously? Do you have a herd number? Not sure I would be buying in cattle just for the sole reason of eating silage and making use of a shed...unless of course you had an interest anyway and had some experience....
    I do have a herd no. I did have a suckler herd a few years ago but I changed to tillage cause the profits from both of them is similar .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    40 450 kg i mid range bullocks. Say 2.20 a kg. avg 1000 apiece + commission and transport. €20. 2 kg of meal until sale in April. €80. 5 bales of silage a head @ 20 a bale €100. Dosing other misc say €20.. Cattle 535kg 1st April. Commission and transport €30 You need €1250 at the hammer to be even Stevens.. Though you have the slurry...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Look around to see if you can sell the silage (and what you'd get for it ) at the same time see if you can rent the shed else where with or without silage.
    You'd be shelling out a fair bit up front (and be tied to the farm over winter) just to buy stock to eat silage.

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Willfarman wrote: »
    40 450 kg i mid range bullocks. Say 2.20 a kg. avg 1000 apiece + commission and transport. €20. 2 kg of meal until sale in April. €80. 5 bales of silage a head @ 20 a bale €100. Dosing other misc say €20.. Cattle 535kg 1st April. Commission and transport €30 You need €1250 at the hammer to be even Stevens.. Though you have the slurry...

    You forgot loan interest. I doubt he has 40k sitting in the bank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    _Brian wrote: »
    Well, better idle than a busy fool. Guy that works for me is still looking to get paid for his sheds and 400 bales of silage from last year. He fed the stock and did all testing and arranged vet etc.

    serious financial blow, reckons he'll never see the money.

    He let the cattle out of the sheds without getting paid?

    He needs to get a solicitor onto that baby straight away and bring him back to your home county and teach him a few things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    He let the cattle out of the sheds without getting paid?

    He needs to get a solicitor onto that baby straight away and bring him back to your home county and teach him a few things


    Thing is he is a Cavan man...

    He let the sheds to get in some cash as he's in a bit of bother... The lad spun him the old "you'll get paid when the cheque comes from the factory" line and he fell for it.. Number he had was disconnected.. Was all agreed word of mouth stuff... Total nightmare. he has a solicitor onto it but with no paperwork its going to be tough.. shocking thing is his wife works two days a week IN the damn solicitors practice filing stuff... Surely they should have gotten advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Does he have ear tags? Herd number of the lad he dealt with. Best way deal this is get the Department involved but that could backfire on him too penalties all round if movements not properly registerd.

    For OP take look at this

    http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/press/pressreleases/2006/november/title,13096,en.html

    Then find out what DVO conditions are. Could you do bit contract rearing for a dairy lad?

    Good silage making €15 a bale by me. Was alot grass this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    He has the lads details but due to the loose arrangement initially he's trying to squirm out of the deal.. Could be the solicitors are the only money makers from that deal :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    He hasn't asked "in the right way" yet.

    chap beside me had a bunch of heifers stolen, while they were on some rented ground.
    He found out who was responsible, and called round. (Across the border in Fermanagh)
    Heifers were found next day in a specified place.
    Rustler not very photogenic for a while.
    Same lad arrested in Donegal town at the weekend after robbing a chemist shop and then ramming a Garda car during a car chase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    He hasn't asked "in the right way" yet.

    chap beside me had a bunch of heifers stolen, while they were on some rented ground.
    He found out who was responsible, and called round. (Across the border in Fermanagh)
    Heifers were found next day in a specified place.
    Rustler not very photogenic for a while.
    Same lad arrested in Donegal town at the weekend after robbing a chemist shop and then ramming a Garda car during a car chase.

    Would I be right in saying they used his own trailer for that operation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    No, the man rented a bit of ground down near Ballyconnell and put his 7 or 8 heifers on it. Rustler didn't check who owned them, thought the belonged to land owner, an elderly man.
    Big mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Journal and local papers ...read the adds maybe stick up your own .
    Since youre not stuck for the cash you hold on to the silage for a while - chances are the lad who was renting off you will start uping his offer soon .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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