Random Tri questions

libelula

I hope this is ok, it works really well in another forum and I've found it really helpful for newbie as well as more advanced/experienced athletes questions.

I'm going to start with this...

I recently completed a 'try a tri' of 200m (pool), 10k cycle and 4k run. I came into this from a running background where I traditionally run 4/5 days a week. I'm slow as hell but I have good endurance.
I'm now also doing a turbo class, a swim class and getting in two short swims per week.
I'm bleedin knackered. What'll I do, drop a run? How many times a week would a typical newbie run? I don't want my running to suffer at all, I'm already a lot slower than I'd like.

BTH

libelula wrote: »

I hope this is ok, it works really well in another forum and I've found it really helpful for newbie as well as more advanced/experienced athletes questions.

I'm going to start with this...

I recently completed a 'try a tri' of 200m (pool), 10k cycle and 4k run. I came into this from a running background where I traditionally run 4/5 days a week. I'm slow as hell but I have good endurance.
I'm now also doing a turbo class, a swim class and getting in two short swims per week.
I'm bleedin knackered. What'll I do, drop a run? How many times a week would a typical newbie run? I don't want my running to suffer at all, I'm already a lot slower than I'd like.

Sleep more, eat better and drop a run until your body adapts to the increased training hours.

libelula

BTH wrote: »

Sleep more, eat better and drop a run until your body adapts to the increased training hours.

That's about as clear and concise as you could ask for! Thanks BTH

Do you guys have active rest days or full rest days?

Kurt_Godel

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you guys have active rest days or full rest days?

Depends on the individual, but most will train 7 days a week (with quite a few double days too). Its a lot less stressful on your body if you mix up the sports, and swim and bike are minimal impact anyway. An easy hour on the turbo/bike will beat an easy hour on the couch any day.

RacoonQueen

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you guys have active rest days or full rest days?

Yeah I would generally train every day, even if my 'training' is a 45 minute swim...which doesn't really feel like training anymore. With swimming, when you get a bit more comfortable in the water, even a hard session isn't quite that hard on the body.

RJM85

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Do you guys have active rest days or full rest days?

Depends whether the body is tired or the mind. If you're sore and physically tired, an easy session usually leaves you feeling invigorated after. If your mind is in need of a break a coffee and the odd slice of cake can be the best cure.

RJM85

RJM85 wrote: »

Depends whether the body is tired or the mind. If you're sore and physically tired, an easy session usually leaves you feeling invigorated after. If your mind is in need of a break a coffee and the odd slice of cake can be the best cure.

That makes perfect sense, and the more I swim, the more I can see why this would be great for recovery.

There'll definitely be double days, but at least I know that it's normal enough not to take a complete day off, because there really aren't enough days in the week for all of this!

joey100

You can help yourself with how you plan your training too. So if you have a hard run session try and get it done early, then the next day maybe an easy bike in the evening. Will give you a nice long gap between the two sessions. Or an easy swim the morning and then an easy bike. So no real days off but plenty of time between sessions to recover.

joey100

joey100 wrote: »

You can help yourself with how you plan your training too. So if you have a hard run session try and get it done early, then the next day maybe an easy bike in the evening. Will give you a nice long gap between the two sessions. Or an easy swim the morning and then an easy bike. So no real days off but plenty of time between sessions to recover.

Yeh that's where I'm at at the minute, I've still got a week of "easy" training to do since the marathon and I've been sort of just doing what I felt like when I felt like. From next week thought I'm allowed back to normal training and so just kind of figuring out what to do when

iAcesHigh

I do take a complete off day about once in 2 weeks and probably 1 "active rest" day once in a week or week and a half. After talking about it with my coach we figured that's the best approach for me, but he did mention that he has a few colleagues/athletes doing only "active rest" days once in a week or so where you do a small amount of aerobic training or whatever combination relaxes you - with that in mind I would say try both and decide what suits you more...

libelula

Are wetsuits essential/regulation for open water triathlons?

sconhome

They are in Ireland pretty much all of the time.

libelula

AKW wrote: »

They are in Ireland pretty much all of the time.

Cool thanks

Hani Kosti

libelula wrote: »

Cool thanks

It's due to water temperature (I'm freezing anyway)

rainbow kirby

I've done a couple of races in the UK which mandated them even with water temperatures at/over the wetsuits banned limit (22c for sprint and Olympic distance).

joey100

Yep wetsuits are essential for pretty much all races in Ireland, but it doesn't have to be a triathlon wetsuit. If you wanted you would get away with a shorty wetsuit from Aldi or a surfing wetsuit. Probably find someone to lend you some sort of wetsuit for your first race to see how you get on if you don't want to invest in a tri one straight away.

mirrormatrix

rainbow kirby wrote: »

I've done a couple of races in the UK which mandated them even with water temperatures at/over the wetsuits banned limit (22c for sprint and Olympic distance).

Where in the UK was this? I've never heard of temperatures of over about 18 C anywhere in the UK or Ireland

rainbow kirby

Eton Dorney for a sprint tri and Hyde Park for an aquathon. Water 22-23c in both cases. A heatwave in London and the surroundings can make open water very warm here.

mirrormatrix

Wow, must do one of them some time so!

MojoMaker

Jaysus, after 1500m in the Atlantic this summer I was fit to rip the damn suit off it was so warm. Sea was about 14.5 so if you're cold you're not working hard enough in the water

RacoonQueen

TI rules say that wetsuits are compulsory in all races. They don't stipulate anything about water temps. Probably generally not necessary in Ireland...TI would probably just cancel the swim if water was too warm :pac:

sconhome

RacoonQueen wrote: »

TI rules say that wetsuits are compulsory in all races. They don't stipulate anything about water temps. Probably generally not necessary in Ireland...TI would probably just cancel the swim if water was too warm :pac:

Unless the rule book changed they do state the water temps minimum and maximum and distances allowed for those water temps.

RacoonQueen

AKW wrote: »

Unless the rule book changed they do state the water temps minimum and maximum and distances allowed for those water temps.

What I mean is they don't state wetsuits not allowed at temps above x degrees. From what I can remember.

tunney

RacoonQueen wrote: »

What I mean is they don't state wetsuits not allowed at temps above x degrees. From what I can remember.

Would be the same as IM rules as the ones in IMde, Roth and Austria and the rest are run under ITU rules

libelula

What's the craic with TT bikes and the forward facing handlebars? Are they just more comfortable?

sconhome

Aerodynamics.