House Buildings Costs and Supports

mtoutlemonde

Hello everyone, just looking for information on house building.

I would love to build my own house - not a mansion maybe 1/2 bedroom, sitting room, kitchen and bathroom and am just wondering about the costs? I looked into modular houses / log cabins etc. and would prefer to have something concrete and these options are not that cheap either. And they also require planning permission.

I grew up on a farm so have my own site which would reduce the cost as well.

Are there any supports available? i.e. I remember when I was younger that if someone had a site, the county council would build a house on it. Do councils still build one off houses in the country? If they do, what would or who would I need to contact?

How much would a small house cost? I am aware that planning is around €20,000+.

I'm sorry if this thread is badly phrased - I just have no idea of the costs of building a house but it is something I can't wait to do as I'm living with the parents and its time I got my own independence.

Thanks in advance.

riclad

You pay an architect, you pay fees for planning permission to planning dept,council .
architects fees usually x per cent of cost of house,
should be less than 20k.unless house is very big.
Councils don,t build 1 off houses ,
they might build 10 units on one site .
The only support i know is council may give you loan to buy a private house if your income is under 35k approx.house apartment will need to be in very good condition to get a council loan.
Where my family lives its cheaper to buy
than build one .eg house ,apartment 60k approx area.
eg standard basic 3bed semi d is 130k plus to build even if site is free .
Builder has to pay fees to council 20k plus per house .
i can buy a 10 year old apartment ,450sq ft 1bed ,for 60k,
i that was built now it might cost 80k to build it ,
not counting planning fees, and site cost .And architects fee .
i presume you live on farm in a rural area.
I was watching grand designs ,
a large house cost 90k plus to build ,in the uk.
even though site was free,he even got some materials for free ,bricks ,stones to build part of the walls .
he did 90 per cent of the work himself .IT took him 2 years to build it .
apart from door windows install ,and electical wiring .
wood frame house .
i would be happy to build a log cabin myself ,
if i had a free site and the money for materials .
maybe get some book,s on self build .
wood frame house on a budget .
google wood frame house grand designs .
The councils business is to provide social housing ,
eg for people on a lower income .
not one off housing.

There,s co ops or charitys that help people to self build .
of course a 1 or 2 bed house thats small will be cheaper than a 1000sq ft house.

mtoutlemonde

riclad wrote: »

You pay an architect, you pay fees for planning permission to planning dept,council .
architects fees usually x per cent of cost of house,
should be less than 20k.unless house is very big.
Councils don,t build 1 off houses ,
they might build 10 units on one site .
The only support i know is council may give you loan to buy a private house if your income is under 35k approx.house apartment will need to be in very good condition to get a council loan.
Where my family lives its cheaper to buy
than build one .eg house ,apartment 60k approx area.
eg standard basic 3bed semi d is 130k plus to build even if site is free .
Builder has to pay fees to council 20k plus per house .
i can buy a 10 year old apartment ,450sq ft 1bed ,for 60k,
i that was built now it might cost 80k to build it ,
not counting planning fees, and site cost .And architects fee .
i presume you live on farm in a rural area.
I was watching grand designs ,
a large house cost 90k plus to build ,in the uk.
even though site was free,he even got some materials for free ,bricks ,stones to build part of the walls .
he did 90 per cent of the work himself .IT took him 2 years to build it .
apart from door windows install ,and electical wiring .
wood frame house .
i would be happy to build a log cabin myself ,
if i had a free site and the money for materials .
maybe get some book,s on self build .
wood frame house on a budget .
google wood frame house grand designs .
The councils business is to provide social housing ,
eg for people on a lower income .
not one off housing.

There,s co ops or charitys that help people to self build .
of course a 1 or 2 bed house thats small will be cheaper than a 1000sq ft house.

Thanks a million for your reply. I suppose the architect is the only one who can give me prices from experience.

I have been looking at plans to buy online - would you recommend them? I saw a nice four bed dormer which I like the look of - it was kind of what I was thinking about. I can PM the link because I don't think I can post it here.

I think it is just an idea at present as I am not in full time employment but I have had continuous work and have been able to save as I am living at home but I like to have a goal i.e. how much I would need to build even the shell / kitchen / bedroom etc.

riclad

You are trying to keep costs down,?
why look at 4bed plans,
look at 2 bed house plans.
Does a single person really need a 4 bed house.?
COST depends on materials used,design ,
its it wood frame ,concrete mortar,brick ,block etc
What type of insulation will be used .
will all the materials ,doors windows ,be brand new .
Theres a store near the quays ,sell,s doors,wood, pvc, triple glaze, ,windows, bricks ,
tiles,etc all 40 per cent less than cost in a builders provider,s .
no point in pm , ing me the link.
i,m not really qualified to look at plans .
Theres another forum here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1245

self build or basic construction advice info
you,d get more detailed advice there i think ,
re building costs planning etc

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

mtoutlemonde wrote: »

I have been looking at plans to buy online - would you recommend them?

Don't do this. Really don't.

Employ a good architect. S/he will design something that correctly responds and relates to the site, context, aspect, etc. S/he will design a house that meets your needs; it may be quite modest.

riclad

http://selfbuild.ie/construction/build-cost-estimator/
MY advice is post on the construction forum,as in my previous post.
is it a 2 storey or bungalow ,
you could even do your own basic drawings ,
post them as photos,upload them.
Ask for general advice ,re layout size of rooms .
my friend lives in apartment ,
layout one level, single floor, no stairs .
hallway, small bathroom,12x 10ft approx
front room=livingroom ,built in kitchen,
1 bedroom, bedroom is 70 per cent the size of the front room .
size 400-500 sq ft .
single storey is cheaper in general to build.
May one front door and one back door .
front room is maybe 20x 17ft approx
An architect will need to now what is your budget,
what type of materials do you want.
wood ,brick,size of room,s , bathroom etc
level of insulation .

http://www.selfbuildportal.org.uk/forum/index/1-the-self-build-portal-forum

Have you considered renting or buying an apartment?
Building on the family farm isn't going to get you away from your parents.

What age are you? Do you have family yourself?
Do you intend to have family?

Gumbo

Building your own house on your family farm will cost about €1500 per square meter excluding site costs. That figure can go up or down depending on finishes selected.

If saving money is the primary goal, it will be cheaper to buy!

You cannot just pluck plans from the net as your architect will have to meet the planner and decide on a style of home that they will allow.

You then have contributions, water, ESB, gas connections to pay for.

Drainage also, public system or septic tank?

Talk to the bank, see what your budget is and that will decide what size and type of home you can build.

riclad

IN most rural area,s you can buy a small house, or 1 bed apartment cheaper than building even if you have a free site .
That,s why there,s not much building going on outside citys ,dublin ,cork etc
Planning costs depend on the size of the house, do you employ architect.
or just use a standard house plan design.
My friend built a 400 sq ft extension,one storey , no stairs .
he connected into existing drainage system of his house ,also connected to the electric supply in his house.
it has 2 doors and 3 windows , 2ft from his house.
He did not employ an architect.
Keep on saving ,you will need it whether you buy or choose to build.

Mrs OBumble

What are the chances of finding work in your current location?

I'm not sure I see the point in getting a house there unless it's economically sustainable to live in the area.

It disturbs me a little that your first impulse is to look for someone to subsidise your house.

mtoutlemonde

riclad wrote: »

You are trying to keep costs down,?
why look at 4bed plans,
look at 2 bed house plans.
Does a single person really need a 4 bed house.?
COST depends on materials used,design ,
its it wood frame ,concrete mortar,brick ,block etc
What type of insulation will be used .
will all the materials ,doors windows ,be brand new .
Theres a store near the quays ,sell,s doors,wood, pvc, triple glaze, ,windows, bricks ,
tiles,etc all 40 per cent less than cost in a builders provider,s .
no point in pm , ing me the link.
i,m not really qualified to look at plans .
Theres another forum here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1245

self build or basic construction advice info
you,d get more detailed advice there i think ,
re building costs planning etc

Well I was looking around and got a bit carried away - in my ideal world this would be the ideal house. Someday I would like to have a family or even while I'm working on that, I could take in lodgers to lower the costs.

mtoutlemonde

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

Don't do this. Really don't.

Employ a good architect. S/he will design something that correctly responds and relates to the site, context, aspect, etc. S/he will design a house that meets your needs; it may be quite modest.

Yeah I did a search on this and the general consensus is to employ an architect. It does make sense as they will know the area and will have experience with the county council.

mtoutlemonde

riclad wrote: »

http://selfbuild.ie/construction/build-cost-estimator/
MY advice is post on the construction forum,as in my previous post.
is it a 2 storey or bungalow ,
you could even do your own basic drawings ,
post them as photos,upload them.
Ask for general advice ,re layout size of rooms .
my friend lives in apartment ,
layout one level, single floor, no stairs .
hallway, small bathroom,12x 10ft approx
front room=livingroom ,built in kitchen,
1 bedroom, bedroom is 70 per cent the size of the front room .
size 400-500 sq ft .
single storey is cheaper in general to build.
May one front door and one back door .
front room is maybe 20x 17ft approx
An architect will need to now what is your budget,
what type of materials do you want.
wood ,brick,size of room,s , bathroom etc
level of insulation .

http://www.selfbuildportal.org.uk/forum/index/1-the-self-build-portal-forum

Never thought of the construction forum - I might do that. Thanks.

mtoutlemonde

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you considered renting or buying an apartment?
Building on the family farm isn't going to get you away from your parents.

What age are you? Do you have family yourself?
Do you intend to have family?

Don't particularly need to get away from parents - just need my own space and I like the area.

One day, I would love to have a family.

mtoutlemonde

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

What are the chances of finding work in your current location?

I'm not sure I see the point in getting a house there unless it's economically sustainable to live in the area.

It disturbs me a little that your first impulse is to look for someone to subsidise your house.

Don't want anyone to subsidise my home but it would nice to have a back up if something went wrong down the line as I did say regarding the council building houses or something like the rent to buy scheme etc. I am a very independent person and it would be the last resort to get someone to subsidise my home - I hope that explains my situation. In my head something tells me that it would be easier to deal with the county council than a bank with all the horror stories of people losing their homes.

riclad

The banks give loans to people ,to buy a home
loan is x times your salary ,
Plus they work out can you pay the loan if interest rates go up by 2 per cent.
You can get free advice from a mortgage broker .
re how to get a loan.
The council,s might give a loan as a last resort to a single person
,but they are not in the business of helping self build projects.
It,s possible to self build a small house ,
if you are good at diy, and have the time to do it.And use a simple layout design.
And employ an electrician and plumber to do the more specialized work .
eg plumbing,tiling,wiring.
My friend got a council loan 10 years ago to buy an apartment 1bed.