Rte worldwide?

gordongekko

With itv moving into the republic and tv3 joining virgin media. Is it time for rte to expand into the UK with a commercial station.

It could use it's studios in Ireland relay it's home grown programmes live, use it's vast archive to fill the daytime schedule and buy in some films to fill in the gaps.

Surely the costs are minimal are the rewards are good so long as they don't put the people in charge of utvi running it.

icdg

It's been mooted from time to time but mostly by politicians who would "like to see it" but not necessarily pay for it. RTE themselves don't want it and have no interest.

byte

Anyone remember Tara TV?

gordongekko

byte wrote: »

Anyone remember Tara TV?

It had quite a big following in the uk. Of course it had the additional handicap of having to purchase in all programmes, a problem rte wouldnt have.

mackersdublin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Ireland was mentioned in the 5 yr plan back in 2013

afatbollix

gordongekko wrote: »

It had quite a big following in the uk. Of course it had the additional handicap of having to purchase in all programmes, a problem rte wouldnt have.

It was ran from a prefab from RTE in donnybrook and RTE staff wouldn't do anything with it quoting unions. They had to get freelancers from UK in the end to run the channel and it was just too expensive in the end.

RTE staff & top brass want more cash to run it they don't think of the greater good.

Elmo

afatbollix wrote: »

It was ran from a prefab from RTE in donnybrook and RTE staff wouldn't do anything with it quoting unions. They had to get freelancers from UK in the end to run the channel and it was just too expensive in the end.

RTE staff & top brass want more cash to run it they don't think of the greater good.

If RTE, TV3, TG4, BBC NI, UTV and perhaps Irish TV you could possibly have a fairly straight forward international channel.

7am Ireland AM
10am Today
11:30 Midday
12:30 TV3 NEWS
13:00 RTE NEWS
13:00 BBC NI/UTV Lunch time news bulletin
13:30 Current Affairs (Prime Time, Insight, TWIP)
14:30 VB Tonight
15:30 TSOCS
16:30 Today
17:30 TV3 NEWS
18:00 RTE NEWS
19:00 NUACHT TG4
19:30 Ireland Live
20:00 TV3 News
20:30 UTV Live
21:00 RTE NEWS
21:30 BBC Newsline
22:00 Current Affairs (Prime Time, Insight, TWIP)
23:00 VB Tonight
00:00 News Reports from the above


3 DGs now not to get it off the ground.

Elmo

From a legal stand point RTÉ would have had to broadcast Tara TV from abroad as the then BCI was not issuing any licences beyond TV3. Though it might have been mentioned in the 2001 act?

icdg

No, it was licenced in the UK under the Broadcasting Acts 1990 and 1996 to the best of my knowledge, even though the company was registered in Ireland.

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

No, it was licenced in the UK under the Broadcasting Acts 1990 and 1996 to the best of my knowledge, even though the company was registered in Ireland.

Licenced to broadcast from the UK.

afatbollix

Elmo wrote: »

If RTE, TV3, TG4, BBC NI, UTV and perhaps Irish TV you could possibly have a fairly straight forward international channel.

7am Ireland AM
10am Today
11:30 Midday
12:30 TV3 NEWS
13:00 RTE NEWS
13:00 BBC NI/UTV Lunch time news bulletin
13:30 Current Affairs (Prime Time, Insight, TWIP)
14:30 VB Tonight
15:30 TSOCS
16:30 Today
17:30 TV3 NEWS
18:00 RTE NEWS
19:00 NUACHT TG4
19:30 Ireland Live
20:00 TV3 News
20:30 UTV Live
21:00 RTE NEWS
21:30 BBC Newsline
22:00 Current Affairs (Prime Time, Insight, TWIP)
23:00 VB Tonight
00:00 News Reports from the above


3 DGs now not to get it off the ground.

Pigs would fly before getting competitors sitting around a table.

Also why would anyone want to watch Irish news all day? Surely the market is the dramas and talk shows?

Elmo

afatbollix wrote: »

Pigs would fly before getting competitors sitting around a table.

Also why would anyone want to watch Irish news all day? Surely the market is the dramas and talk shows?

The problem with Drama are rights and Equity and Indo producers.

You could add Red Rock, Ros Na Run and Fair City to the line up.

I am thinking France 24 or RT rather than BBC Prime. We have so little in terms of content for a full international channel outside of news.

Competitors in Irish TV need their heads examined, 48% of viewers watch Irish TV in Oct 2015 ... during one of the biggest sporting events!

icdg

I suspect you'd have a hard time selling an undubbed Ros na Run to anyone other than maybe BBC Alba.

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

I suspect you'd have a hard time selling an undubbed Ros na Run to anyone other than maybe BBC Alba.

I never really understood why non-English speaking countries would have an issue with subtitles in their own language, some countries like Italy would need programmes Dubbed but Nordic countries tend to subtitle rather than dub.

It's not necessarily about the content/language in terms of Drama but it is about rights. Equity as far as RTE are concerned are in a Cold War, do you ever wonder why RTE never repeat RTE Dramas? It's because its more expensive than repeating bought in Drama.

icdg

English speaking countries, historically at least didn't do subtitles (especially not the States!). In the UK there's been some success with subtitled drama on BBC Four, but I suspect Ros na Run isn't the type of drama they are looking for.

Elmo

icdg wrote: »

English speaking countries, historically at least didn't do subtitles (especially not the States!). In the UK there's been some success with subtitled drama on BBC Four, but I suspect Ros na Run isn't the type of drama they are looking for.

True but there are more non-English speakers in European than English speakers. I think BBC Four aired a welsh drama and I think picked up Corp 'S Anam or An Brontannas from TG4.

Like Nordic countries most non-English content in English speaking countries is subtitle rather than Dubbed. TG4 actally decided against dubbing adult programming into Irish in the early 2000s from non-English speaking countries, in favour of US serials and subtitles.

Providing Ros Na Run and other TG4 content would make sense on an Irish international Channel.

8pm Fair City (Monday - Thursday)
8:30 Ros Na Run /Red Rock (Monday - Thursday)

But it still remains an issue for Equity over the broadcasters (though I think they are more lenient with TV3 and TG4)

Sam Russell

Elmo wrote: »

But it still remains an issue for Equity over the broadcasters (though I think they are more lenient with TV3 and TG4)

I think they would get very short shrift from both TG4 and especially TV3.

Elmo

Sam Russell wrote: »

I think they would get very short shrift from both TG4 and especially TV3.

Well TV3 have just started.

gordongekko

I was thinking more a general entertainment channel drawing on their own resources and trying to sync up with what on its stations in ireland.


Just going by tomorrows schedule it would look something like the following. Probably just proves how poor rte is at the moment

7.25 today show
8.55 kids stuff from rte2
11.50 leaders questions
12.30 ros na run
13.00 rte news
13.30 7 la
14.00 nationwide
14.30 nationwide
15.00 fair city
15.30 the gleneagle
16.0 today
17.40 nuacht
18.01 6 one
19.00 nationwide
19.30 rachels coastal
19.57 lotto
20.00 fair city
20.30 you should really see a doctor
21.00 news
21.30 7 la
21.55 second captains
23.00 republiuc of telly
23.30 hardy bucks

Elmo

gordongekko wrote: »

I was thinking more a general entertainment channel drawing on their own resources and trying to sync up with what on its stations in ireland.


Just going by tomorrows schedule it would look something like the following. Probably just proves how poor rte is at the moment

Proves how poor Irish TV has been over the last few years.

RTE is filled with repeats
TV3 is convinced that 50% daytime TV is a good thing
TG4 continues to do well but is largely repeats as before
UTV Ireland or what will be ITV Ireland is just that ITV ireland (with a small I)
Setanta is purely BT Sport, with all the talk of ITV buying TV3 you'd imagine their be talk of BT take control of Setanta.

afatbollix

Elmo wrote: »

Setanta is purely BT Sport, with all the talk of ITV buying TV3 you'd imagine their be talk of BT take control of Setanta.

BT sport is there to boost the BT broadband market in the UK. They have no reason to be in the Irish market thats why they linked up with setanta to let them deal with all the crap from the Irish market.


Anyway this channel has happened all ready its called Irish TV and is on sky in the UK and USA.

Elmo

afatbollix wrote: »

Anyway this channel has happened all ready its called Irish TV and is on sky in the UK and USA.

And it's absolute ****e

BT could re-enter the Irish market, they still sponsor the young scientist exhibition.

afatbollix

And thats the best you are going to get for a long long long time.

munchkin_utd

folks, theres already an RTE worldwide, in the subscription version of their RTE Player outside of Ireland
If that is successful then theres no need to do anything via satelite or cable.

If there was one change I would make it'd be that a special international general programming feed (aka channel) be made similar to the news now feed, i.e. show the live programmes or first showings of programmes paralell to Ireland, and fill in any gaps then with other shows they have the rights for
It'd actually be Tara TV, but online and using programmes that are already on the player, but just properly packaged.