[nail fungus] Is ND Yag Laser treatment safe?

LePrince

How safe is ND Yag Laser treatment of toe nail fungus?

Havana therapy seems to be offering this service.

locum-motion

If one or two nails or affected, your pharmacist can offer you a treatment that is proven safe and effective.
If three or more nails are affected, your doctor can prescribe the same treatment after having examined you.

LePrince

Doctors prescribe a drug that can cause liver damage: lamisil.

I need to know if laser treatment has been proven to be safe.

locum-motion

It's not the treatment to which I was referring, but Yes, Lamisil is an option that is available for the Dr to prescribe. Regarding liver damage, though, the key word in your last post is "can".

LePrince wrote: »

Doctors prescribe a drug that can cause liver damage: lamisil...

Liver damage in users of Lamisil is classified as a 'Rare' side effect. 'Rare' means more than 1 in 10,000 users, and less than 1 in 1,000. To put that another way, it happens to at the very most 1/10th of 1% of patients who use it. However, that is still bad news if you're unlucky enough to be the person. To counteract that, liver function tests are performed prior to and on occasion during treatment, so that if liver damage occurs, it can be caught early.

LePrince

Thanks but I know everything there is to know about lamisil and I am not interested in taking this for 12 months risking my liver and the long list of side effects.
I don't want to hear about the probabilities.

It is the laser treatment I am interested in. Does anyone know how safe this is?

locum-motion wrote: »

It's not the treatment to which I was referring, but Yes, Lamisil is an option that is available for the Dr to prescribe. Regarding liver damage, though, the key word in your last post is "can".



Liver damage in users of Lamisil is classified as a 'Rare' side effect. 'Rare' means more than 1 in 10,000 users, and less than 1 in 1,000. To put that another way, it happens to at the very most 1/10th of 1% of patients who use it. However, that is still bad news if you're unlucky enough to be the person. To counteract that, liver function tests are performed prior to and on occasion during treatment, so that if liver damage occurs, it can be caught early.

locum-motion

There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

amdublin

locum-motion wrote: »

If one or two nails or affected, your pharmacist can offer you a treatment that is proven safe and effective.
If three or more nails are affected, your doctor can prescribe the same treatment after having examined you.

Without prescription locum-motion? I'd be interested in this, what is the name of this please?


OP, me - I wouldn't be going to a beauty therapist to get a medical issue fixed.

LePrince

amdublin wrote: »

OP, me - I wouldn't be going to a beauty therapist to get a medical issue fixed.

I'd go with clinic/hospital/surgery if they were equipped with the said laser and I knew it was safe.

locum-motion

amdublin wrote: »

Without prescription locum-motion? I'd be interested in this, what is the name of this please?..

I am not going to provide you with pharmaceutical advice here. A) it would be against the rules, and I get PAID for offering such advice; I'm not going to do it here for free!

Go to your pharmacy. Ask there. A portion of the money you pay for the product pays the pharmacist's wages!

amdublin

locum-motion wrote: »

I am not going to provide you with pharmaceutical advice here. A) it would be against the rules, and I get PAID for offering such advice; I'm not going to do it here for free!

Go to your pharmacy. Ask there. A portion of the money you pay for the product pays the pharmacist's wages!

I am still going to have to go the pharmacy to buy it!

What you are saying is a bit like saying you can buy a great tv in Curry's. It's a fantastic tv exactly to the specs you want but I am not going to tell you what make it is!

Or something like that

Ps. Does the "name of a product" I can buy in a chemist over the counter really constitute advice??!

locum-motion

Recommending a telly is not forbidden by the charter here!

huskerdu

LePrince wrote: »

I'd go with clinic/hospital/surgery if they were equipped with the said laser and I knew it was safe.

It doesn't make sense that you have rejected one treatment ( which has been extensively tested and licensed) due to its potential side affects but you would use another treatment carried out in a beauty clinic, on the word of a randomer on the internet.

amdublin

locum-motion wrote: »

Recommending a telly is not forbidden by the charter here!

I guess I am not so much looking for a recommendation, more of an option.


E.g I have a headache am going to chemist, what are my otc options? Neurofen, paracetamol, asprin etc? Anything else?


Is it canesten I am asking for??




(P.s I am genuinely not trying to break the charter here!!!!!!! Honestly. If you feel it would be breaking the rules of the charter please just ignore. But I'd assume talking about over the counter options is ok??)

LePrince

huskerdu wrote: »

It doesn't make sense that you have rejected one treatment ( which has been extensively tested and licensed) due to its potential side affects but you would use another treatment carried out in a beauty clinic, on the word of a randomer on the internet.

Lamisil has been extensively tested and has an extensive list of nasty side effects with potential liver damage or death. I am not prepared to risk these because of the discoloration of the nails.
Laser treatment is said to be uninvasive, fast. If it works I don't care if the treatment is based off of a beauty clinic or a hospital although I'd prefer a health professional to carry out the procedure.

I am not sure who that "randomer on the internet" is. There are some medical researches conducted since 2013 (see wikipedia's page references)

Stheno

LePrince wrote: »

Lamisil has been extensively tested and has an extensive list of nasty side effects with potential liver damage or death. I am not prepared to risk these because of the discoloration of the nails.
Laser treatment is said to be uninvasive, fast. If it works I don't care if the treatment is based off of a beauty clinic or a hospital although I'd prefer a health professional to carry out the procedure.

I am not sure who that "randomer on the internet" is. There are some medical researches conducted since 2013 (see wikipedia's page references)

Wikipedia is not the most optimal of sources of information

LePrince

Stheno wrote: »

Wikipedia is not the most optimal of sources of information

I was talking about wikipedia's references which look legit. Also, ND yag laser has been approved in north america: not by internet randomers nor beauty specialists...

Please read Medscape article id 772259_2. Thanks.

locum-motion

LePrince wrote: »

Lamisil has been extensively tested and has an extensive list of nasty side effects with potential liver damage or death. I am not prepared to risk these because of the discoloration of the nails.
Laser treatment is said to be uninvasive, fast. If it works I don't care if the treatment is based off of a beauty clinic or a hospital although I'd prefer a health professional to carry out the procedure.

I am not sure who that "randomer on the internet" is. There are some medical researches conducted since 2013 (see wikipedia's page references)

Why your obsession with Lamisil?
I already told you; that was not the treatment to which I initially referred.

locum-motion

amdublin wrote: »

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Ps. Does the "name of a product" I can buy in a chemist over the counter really constitute advice??!

Yes, it absolutely does.

corny

Am I right in saying Terbinafine is available over the counter in Spain?

echo beach

corny wrote: »

Am I right in saying Terbinafine is available over the counter in Spain?

Even if it is it would be very foolish to take it except under medical supervision. The possible side-effects have already been mentioned and it can also interact with other drugs.

corny

echo beach wrote: »

Even if it is it would be very foolish to take it except under medical supervision. The possible side-effects have already been mentioned and it can also interact with other drugs.

Liver function tests prior to and during are no doubt prudent but in normal healthy individuals terbinafine is well tolerated.

Billy Nomates

LePrince wrote: »

How safe is ND Yag Laser treatment of toe nail fungus?

Havana therapy seems to be offering this service.

It is very safe. I've had it done twice and unfortunately for me it didn't work. They tell you it may take several applications but after two I didn't see any change at all so I didn't get a third. It can be a bit painful actually getting it if the laser is held in the one spot for too long but once the application is complete I didn't have any pain or after effects.