NCT query - different problem now?

Experience_day

As per title, I took the car in for the NCT which it failed (bought with no NCT).

1st time round (for previous owner) it failed on bushes and on wheel bearing.

I stuck it in to get a good idea of what was wrong as it was a couple months since he had last had it in.

Now its failed not on the bearings but because the alloy is buckled? It also failed on "Rear suspension system" "Wishbones/Swinging arm mounting". These were already done and are fine?

What on Earth is going on? Are the bearings now fine? Is the alloy ****ed? (Visually looks fine).

Seems incredibly inconclusive. Am I within my rights to go to the NCT centre and ask for a comparison between this NCT and the last? (I should have done it at the time, but I was tired and busy). I'm just reluctant to get work done if the issues keep changing.

Experience_day

Anyone got a suggestion? I'm tempted to buy a similar alloy (Buying identical is nigh on impossible it seems ) and see if that "fixes" the NCT issue. I'm just wary in case the bearing DOES need to be done (would this be dangerous to drive, would I know if it was faulty?).

Suspension wise I've no idea...

Atlantic Dawn

Anything could have happened to the car in the "couple of months" since it was tested, a couple or even one bad pothole can do damage. Also the alloy could have been buckled since it was tested or perhaps the previous owner had the car tested with a different wheel on it.

slimjimmc

How do you know the wheel bearing wasn't replaced ? Comparing with a previous NCT is futile, nobody can prove the condition of the car back then and anyway it's the current condition of the car as presented that counts.
If the bearing was badly worn you'd generally know about it, there'd be a rumble/drone which gets louder with speed and also changes when you take corners as load changes on the affected wheel.

biko

Only worry about your own NCT report.

Experience_day

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Anything could have happened to the car in the "couple of months" since it was tested, a couple or even one bad pothole can do damage. Also the alloy could have been buckled since it was tested or perhaps the previous owner had the car tested with a different wheel on it.

biko wrote: »

Only worry about your own NCT report.

The car has done 50 miles with me in it, with no bumps. All of the other aspects are the same.

Why would I only worrry about my "own" NCT when the previous NCT from the end of August is the same car with two completely different issues?!

slimjimmc wrote: »

How do you know the wheel bearing wasn't replaced ? Comparing with a previous NCT is futile, nobody can prove the condition of the car back then and anyway it's the current condition of the car as presented that counts.
If the bearing was badly worn you'd generally know about it, there'd be a rumble/drone which gets louder with speed and also changes when you take corners as load changes on the affected wheel.

I know the wheel bearing wasn't replaced, because I doubt the fellow I bought it off would have given me a few hundred euros off otherwise...



It's getting away from the point I'm looking for. How, in the face of two conflicting issues am I meant to know what I need to do for the car in terms of both passing the NCT and for the safety of the car.

Experience_day

Anyone?

9935452

is the wheel bearing and damaged alloy on the same corner?
There might have been play in the bearing that failed on the first test.
The next test the tester might have seen it as a damaged alloy because it wasnt spinning true due to a worn bearing.
It might just be a case of tightening/adjusting the bearing

Experience_day

9935452 wrote: »

is the wheel bearing and damaged alloy on the same corner?
There might have been play in the bearing that failed on the first test.
The next test the tester might have seen it as a damaged alloy because it wasnt spinning true due to a worn bearing.
It might just be a case of tightening/adjusting the bearing

Interesting! Yes, it was on the same corner. Is it a major job to get it tightened up?

9935452

Experience_day wrote: »

Interesting! Yes, it was on the same corner. Is it a major job to get it tightened up?

yes its only a small job to adjust/tighten the bearing .
Though some cars dont have adjustment on the bearing.
The bearing might need to be replaced. There might be nothing wrong with the bearing
Its probably best to drop it to a mechanic to see what he says as it is practically impossible to diagnose this type of problem without seeing it

bucketybuck

Experience_day wrote: »

It's getting away from the point I'm looking for. How, in the face of two conflicting issues am I meant to know what I need to do for the car in terms of both passing the NCT and for the safety of the car.

Stop cheaping out relying on the NCT to give you a list of things to repair, bring the car to a proper mechanic and get it properly fixed.

Do you really think that because the tester missed something on the 2nd test that the car becomes safe to drive or something? A test is just a snapshot in time, get the car looked at properly and worry about the test afterwards. This country is completely backwards when it comes to looking after their vehicles.

Experience_day

9935452 wrote: »

yes its only a small job to adjust/tighten the bearing .
Though some cars dont have adjustment on the bearing.
The bearing might need to be replaced. There might be nothing wrong with the bearing
Its probably best to drop it to a mechanic to see what he says as it is practically impossible to diagnose this type of problem without seeing it

Thanks for the advice.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Stop cheaping out relying on the NCT to give you a list of things to repair, bring the car to a proper mechanic and get it properly fixed.

Do you really think that because the tester missed something on the 2nd test that the car becomes safe to drive or something? A test is just a snapshot in time, get the car looked at properly and worry about the test afterwards. This country is completely backwards when it comes to looking after their vehicles.

Idiot. I maintain my car absolutely fine, forgive me if I don't go replacing everything straightaway just because they say so.

biko

Experience_day wrote: »

Idiot.

Much less of this if you want this thread to stay open.

Did you sort your report out yet?

SmartinMartin

Experience_day wrote: »

Interesting! Yes, it was on the same corner. Is it a major job to get it tightened up?

Idiot. I maintain my car absolutely fine, forgive me if I don't go replacing everything straightaway just because they say so.

To be frank, it sounds like you don't have enough knowledge to maintain your car properly.
Do yourself (and your passengers) a favour and bring it to someone who does.