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Buying a new (powerful) computer - what are my options?

  • 03-11-2015 2:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭


    I've just discovered that DELL (from whom I've had excellent service down the years and bought many computers) is now selling pre-configured only. You can no longer spec your computer.

    So, I want a desktop for editing very large photographic files, and to a lesser extent, video.

    1. 4TB of regular storage split into 2 x 2TB.

    2. An SSD (32Gb?) for the OS and all my software.

    3. 32Gb of very fast RAM.

    4. A very fast graphics card.

    5. At least 12 USB ports.

    6. DVD drive.

    7. Anything else I haven't thought of....... :)

    Where should I be looking?

    Thanks, as always.

    D.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I presume you looked to Dell for their warranty?

    With a build like yours I'd wonder if going custom would suit...

    SSDs are cheap these days, no point going for a small one, a 256GB good brand SSD can be had for under €100.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dinarius


    Thanks for the reply.

    No, never looked at their warranty. I've never had an issue with a computer - ever. Finger's crossed.

    I'm typing this on a custom (UK) built laptop - basically, a Porsche with a keyboard.

    It's the desktop sitting next to it that I might replace.

    Who does custom built in the Dublin area?

    Thanks again.

    D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    If you want to "future Proof it" don't forget a Blue Ray DVD capeable drive - that can play CD / DVD ofcourse.

    AS WELL Factor in the cost of a GOOD video editing software package like Sony Movie Studio 13 or Adobe Premiere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    If you go for electromechanical disks, go for smaller individual spindles and many of them - I personally like twelve in a RAID-10 configuration. It'll go like a rocket and take two torpedoes before going bang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dinarius


    If I went for all SSD, can I get 2TB SSDs?

    Would that greatly increase the cost?

    Is the extra cost worth it?

    (I store RAW [i.e. unedited] files on one drive and edited files on the other. RAW are then saved to an external Lacie 10TB drive. At the end of each year, the RAW files are further saved to a third drive. Worst case scenario, I have to save out the edited TIFF again. Triple saving only RAW files saves tons of space.)

    Also, presumably SSDs, like everything else in this life, have good manufacturers and so-so ones.

    Who are the good SSD brands?

    Thanks.

    D.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Dinarius wrote: »
    ...(I store RAW [i.e. unedited] files on one drive and edited files on the other. RAW are then saved to an external Lacie 10TB drive. At the end of each year, the RAW files are further saved to a third drive...

    What kind of data volumes are we looking at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    A 2TB SSD would set you back about a grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dinarius


    A 2TB SSD would set you back about a grand

    Thanks.

    Then I would go the regular route of 2 x 2TB normal drives and one 256Gb SSD for OS and software. (or the RAID formation, as suggested above.)

    I like to keep 3-4 years of files accessible at a time. Hence the drive size.

    Thanks again.

    D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Ant695


    Samsung and Intel spring to mind as the best of the best for ssds. Mass storage is still better done on HDDs due to the price of larger ssds at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Dinarius wrote: »
    Thanks.

    Then I would go the regular route of 2 x 2TB normal drives and one 256Gb SSD for OS and software. (or the RAID formation, as suggested above.)

    I like to keep 3-4 years of files accessible at a time. Hence the drive size.

    Thanks again.

    D.

    Another tip - get a mainboard with plenty of PCI Express slots, so you can run each heavily-loaded disk on a separate SATA/FC-AL/whatever interface, thus moving the bottleneck as far up as possible from the actual mass-storage device. For example, I have a yoke here connected to a DS3512 disk array via two 10Gbps FC-AL cards with two ports each, and it can full-duplex a gig per second at the application level.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭kodistar


    Hi there,

    I used komplett very easy to use and very good just Google it hope i helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dinarius


    kodistar wrote: »
    Hi there,

    I used komplett very easy to use and very good just Google it hope i helped.

    Thanks.

    On this page........

    http://www.komplett.ie/desktops

    ....if I click on 16Gb RAM (which is what I want) or 256Gb SSD, I get the same (one and only) option, which is this....

    http://www.komplett.ie/paradigit-gamer-i7-6700k-970/80039770/details.aspx

    Any views?

    Thanks.

    D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭kodistar


    Hi there,

    Komplett let you build it yoursell so you can buy motherboard and buy your ram and your psu and your cpu and everything and build it yourself will work out alot less then buying a fully built one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Dinarius wrote: »

    Yes. That appears to have one 240GB SSD and a single 2TB electromechanical spindle. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, it is a toy. Until you install two (at least - they're cheap) PCI Express dual-port SATA cards and run two 1TB disks off each in a RAID-10, and use two SSDs on the built-in SATA for a mirrored boot volume. There are also six-port 64MB RAID-enabled SATA cards available, if you want to be even more high-falutin'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Whizzzy


    Thanks. Thought so.

    So, where on the Komplett site is the build-your-own link? I must be going blind.

    Thanks again.

    D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Ant695


    Whizzzy wrote: »
    Thanks. Thought so.

    So, where on the Komplett site is the build-your-own link? I must be going blind.

    Thanks again.

    D.

    Pretty sure he was talking about buying the parts from them and then building it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭kodistar


    Hi there,

    Hahaha you go to kompletts componets and you build it all from scratch processer,psu,case,ram hardrive,speakers,grapics card basicly anything you want.happy building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Dear Christ - if you get into building it yourself, avoid Komplett, prices are extortionate.

    If you want a pre-built with options for upgrading either get someone you know who's good with PCs to build it for you and toss them a few quid for the job or hoof the cost and buy from pcspecialist.co.uk or scan.co.uk or overclockers.co.uk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dinarius


    grindle wrote: »
    Dear Christ - if you get into building it yourself, avoid Komplett, prices are extortionate.

    If you want a pre-built with options for upgrading either get someone you know who's good with PCs to build it for you and toss them a few quid for the job or hoof the cost and buy from pcspecialist.co.uk or scan.co.uk or overclockers.co.uk.

    As it so happens, PC Specialist built the laptop I'm tying this message on. It's rocks! :D

    I would happily use them again. I was simply wondering if there was an alternative to DELL, now that they have (foolishly, in my view) dropped the "build your own" option.

    Thanks again.

    D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    PC Specialist are fairly expensive for desktops iirc


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