Barons, dukes, earls, lords, viscounts...

...can anyone explain the hierarchy in a few sentences and settle an argument?

Ghost Buster

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...can anyone explain the hierarchy in a few sentences and settle an argument?

Mmmmmmmmmmm Viscounts...:pac:

The Sidewards Man

They are all a bunch of pricks.

Senna

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...can anyone explain the hierarchy in a few sentences and settle an argument?

41 years old and still can't use Google?

Mesrine65

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerages_in_the_United_Kingdom#Ranks

Fleawuss

Won't someone do the googling for one and provide the answer. Hurry up, damned peasants.

Mesrine65

Fleawuss wrote: »

Won't someone do the googling for one and provide the answer. Hurry up, damned peasants.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97562043&postcount=5

:P

I've obviously tried google and Wikipedia, but there's far too much to be reading through, neither gives an explanation in 100 words or less. Hence AH.

Fleawuss

Mesrine65 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97562043&postcount=5

:P

One does not welcome the help adopting an insolent air in the drawing room. You may excuse yourself to clean out the stables.

Mourinho

I love the old viscounts with a cup of tea but I've never heard of the others, are they a Jacobs line father?

Andre 3000

Beer Baron, Duke the Lost Engine, Keith Earls, Lord Bendtner, Viscount Biscuits. There, done.

jimgoose

It originally had to do with the diameter of one's Gentleman's Balloons, but much of the technical data was lost shorly after Agincourt when Sir Percival Wandsworth-Tonk lost the original manuscript while off his box in a local hoorhouse. That's toffs for you.

Hierarchy of Titles:

Emperor
King
Archduke
Grand Duke
Grand Prince
Prince
Duke
Sovereign Prince
Marquess / Marquis
Count / Earl
Viscount / Vidame
Baron
Baronet
Hereditary Knight
Knight
Esquire
Gentleman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_and_noble_ranks

Isaiah

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...can anyone explain the hierarchy in a few sentences and settle an argument?

Ok I think -

An Earl is an anglisization of Jarl. The Nordic clan chief or local ruler under a king. It's meaning is the same.

A Count runs a county.

A viscount is a small round minty chocolate biscuit. He is also a counts assistant. Helping to govern a county

A Baron runs Baronies within a county (Example - Santry in dublin was a barony)

A Duke runs a group of counties/regions/provences or even countries arranged into a Duchy.

A Lord is a is a Landed Gentleman who is related to the royal family or has been awarded a Lordship by the crown.



So the hierachy would be Emperor>King>Prince>Duke/Earl>Count>Viscount>Baron>Lord>>Citizen>Peasant/Serf>Irish Water Protester

nullzero

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Mmmmmmmmmmm Viscounts...:pac:

Or "posh biscuits" to give them their correct "title".

Massimo Cassagrande

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I've obviously tried google and Wikipedia, but there's far too much to be reading through, neither gives an explanation in 100 words or less. Hence AH.

:rolleyes:

I'd write something, but ffs..lazy or what??

Isaiah

Isaiah wrote: »

Ok I think -

An Earl is an anglisization of Jarl. The Nordic clan chief or local ruler under a king. It's meaning is the same.

A Count runs a county.

A viscount is a small round minty chocolate biscuit. He is also a counts assistant. Helping to govern a county

A Baron runs Baronies within a county (Example - Santry in dublin was a barony)

A Duke runs a group of counties/regions/provences or even countries arranged into a Duchy.

A Lord is a is a Landed Gentleman who is related to the royal family or has been awarded a Lordship by the crown.

So the hierachy would be Emperor>King>Prince>Duke/Earl>Count>Viscount>Baron>Lord>>Citizen>Peasant/Serf>Irish Water Protester

So far, you're winning the thread...though it's still not perfect eg. you say "Duke/Earl"...what's the difference?

Zaph

Basically all are lords, but they're different levels of seniority within the peerage. A baron is the lowest rank, and this is the level that all life peers (i.e. the one's announced in the Queen's Birthday and New Years honours lists - their title doesn't pass to their children) are created at. There can also be hereditary barons.

Viscount is the next highest rank, but most viscounts also hold a higher rank so they don't use this particular title. It's hereditary and the title is often used by their heir as what's called a courtesy title.

Earl is the next highest rank, then marquess. The higher up you go the less there are of each rank and the higher a title their heirs can use as courtesy titles if lower peerages are held.

The highest rank is duke, a title which is often given to members of the royal family, and a lot of princes are often referred to by their ducal title, e.g. Duke of Edinburgh, Duke of Cambridge, etc.

Mesrine65

Zaph

Haven't heard that song in years.

4zn76tysfajdxp

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...can anyone explain the hierarchy in a few sentences and settle an argument?

Conor74, when you go to the bathroom you'll see a sign that says, "Gentlemen." Pay no heed, go right in. There's no sign that says "Scoundrels" on it.

Isaiah

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So far, you're winning the thread...though it's still not perfect eg. you say "Duke/Earl"...what's the difference?

I think an Earl is a local ruler that gets subjugated into a larger kingdom, he is given an Earldom to keep him happy. The locals are loyal to him so in theory should not rebel. We have had Irish Earls who were descendant of Gaelic Kings.

A Dutchy is granted, usually to someone in line for the throne while they wait around for thier parents to die.

Maybe it should read Emperor>King>Prince>Duke>Count>Marquess>Earl>Viscount>Baron>Citizen/Free man>Peasant/Serf>Irish Water Protester

And as another poster mentioned they are all actually lords (Except for those below the Baron).