Roisin Ingle becoming increasingly annoying

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Am I the only one who's finding her Irish Times column increasingly irritating. She seems to think she's some kind of brave pioneer in a backward Ireland and that anyone who doesn't share her views on everything is some kind of hard hearted bigot. There doesn't seem to be any grey areas with Roisin, everything's just black and white and her side is always the right one.

osarusan

I don't think it's possible for her to become increasingly annoying. She has always been right up there at the top level. She writes trite fluff - annoying as hell for me but I guess there's a market for it.

What is annoying is those Irish Times ads which portray her as some deep philosopher rather than writer of trite fluff.

ben.schlomo

Who?

sonny.knowles

Becoming? This silly bint has been annoying for as long as I can remember.

Fr_Dougal

Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.

RobertKK

Most people don't care what she has to say.

LordSutch

Roisin Ingle seems alright to me, personally speaking.

Talking about 'know it all' brave female political pioneers, I can't help thinking about that McDonald woman who thinks she (and SF) are the holy grail of Irish politics! (Someone pass the sick bucket) please.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

I know some people have always found her annoying, but she just seems to have become more self righteous and preachy lately. Her view is the right view and that's that!

J Mysterio

Her and fecking Justine McCarthy. All the females who write for the Sunday Times are rabid feminists. Their columns are obvious and juvenile

Fleawuss

The tone of AH has gone to hell. Irish Times and Sunday Times readers being let in now. Outrageous.

biko

meh

J Mysterio

Also Breda or Brenda or whatever.

Dr.Internet

Why?


is she following you?

Boring username

It's the Irish Times OP. Being a smug, patronising, right on progressive is practically mandatory with those luvvies. They sit around all day chattering and sniffing each others farts.

tmh106

Gwen Agreeable Caterpillar wrote: »

Am I the only one who's finding her Irish Times column increasingly irritating. She seems to think she's some kind of brave pioneer in a backward Ireland and that anyone who doesn't share her views on everything is some kind of hard hearted bigot. There doesn't seem to be any grey areas with Roisin, everything's just black and white and her side is always the right one.

Are we reading the same articles? I usually read her Saturday magazine column, and I don't think I've ever come away thinking that she has labelled someone who doesn't agree with her as a "hard hearted bigot."

I might often not agree with what she says, but I've never had a problem with how she says it.

lazeedaisy

I used to like her, but it seems her new book has made her think she is a celebrity.

Cant get away from her at the moment, she seems to be everywhere and seems to think her opinion is the only one to have.

tmh106

J Mysterio wrote: »

Her and fecking Justine McCarthy. All the females who write for the Sunday Times are rabid feminists. Their columns are obvious and juvenile

Not to worry; as long as we have a balancing contingent of misogynistic males (and based on replies here, boards has plenty) to balance things out all will be well in the world. Nothing obvious or juvenile about your reply, but you can work on that I guess.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

She has always being annoying. Her's are the only pieces of the IT I no longer read. Her Saturday pieces are like essays a Junior Cert student would write.

Berkieahern

Do people still buy newspapers?

Day Lewin

"becoming"???

Increasingly annoying?

Surely impossible. Already at Maximum.

Menas

She comes across as very fond of the sound of her own voice. And the book has raised her profile and put her out there more. An evening with Rosin anyone?

Noodles81

lazeedaisy wrote: »

I used to like her, but it seems her new book has made her think she is a celebrity.

Cant get away from her at the moment, she seems to be everywhere and seems to think her opinion is the only one to have.

Funny this thread has popped up as I've been thinking that the last few weeks too. The few times I've read her articles, she is so grateful that people are "accepting" of her having an abortion and telling all about it. But the tone is very much self indulgent, like she has been on the frontline of creating a more accepting society. It smacks of attention seeking: She has been left out of all the attention for the gay marriage agenda, so she has created another agenda that places her firmly in the middle.

I couldn't give a hoot if she had an abortion but going on about it like she is and "sharing" it is not brave; it's me fein-itis.

If you want to talk about it, go to a psychotherapist. I don't want to know that you gave up a child in pregnancy but are luckily blessed with some now. What's with having to tell everyone and see if society accepts?

And if you don't you're a lesser human being than Roisin...the confessor of sins.

So what? We all make mistakes or have regrets. But we don't have to gain mass approval for them. She couldn't sleep in the run up to her "coming out" as having an abortion, worrying what everyone would think. Didn't stop her though...career above all else. Just like it didn't stop her having the abortion. She's entitled and not representative of women who have to make difficult decisions about abortion.

I'm really fed up with this climate lately of "fascist acceptance". I never had a problem with abortion. I've friends who have had them and I've supported them. I've never minded what sexuality or gender a person is. But I do mind this culture of "I'm this" and "I'm that"...and you better accept it or I'm going to humiliate you and your outmoded and backward opinions and write articles about how parochial your thinking is because I've a voice as a writer in a major newspaper.

Just shut up and focus on more pressing needs in society like our homeless crises or lack of supports for the silent vulnerables of our society that have no voice or platform.

Acceptance is for all...including "bigots". Accepting them may in the long run lead them to seeing each person as a unique individual deserving of respect. But this "acceptance of certain groups or else" is just as fascist and insular as the opinions of bigots. Only the former can climb the himalayas of rightiousness over the bones of less enlightened mortals as they are brave for "sharing".

Do us all a favour next time Roisin et al and think twice about sharing as I for one couldn't give a monkey's stool sample what you do.

P.S.

I've just realised I've "come out" as being a moany bitch. Wonder can I get sympathy, a referendum to have the right to be a miserable sod enshrined in our constitution or even just a book deal perchance??

No? Didn't think so...that's still a taboo.

thegreatgonzo

Noodles81 wrote: »

I for one couldn't give a monkey's stool sample what you do.

QUOTE]

I'm adopting that phrase thanks

Carlo Ancelotti

Always amazed how people continiously read newspapers or columns that annoy them, then go on a rant about how annoying it is

Boring username

tmh106 wrote: »

Not to worry; as long as we have a balancing contingent of misogynistic males (and based on replies here, boards has plenty) to balance things out all will be well in the world. Nothing obvious or juvenile about your reply, but you can work on that I guess.

There isn't enough facepalm in the world for this.... :rolleyes:

We are criticising a ****e 'journalist', what's between their legs doesn't even come into it. It'll be Kevin Myers next week, or will that be man hating?

Azalea

LordSutch wrote: »

Roisin Ingle seems alright to me, personally speaking.

Talking about 'know it all' brave female political pioneers, I can't help thinking about that McDonald woman who thinks she (and SF) are the holy grail of Irish politics! (Someone pass the sick bucket) please.

Weird to shoehorn Sinn Fein into even this thread.

donvito99

I think she's very good.

Azalea

Noodles81 wrote: »

I couldn't give a hoot if she had an abortion but going on about it like she is and "sharing" it is not brave; it's me fein-itis.

If you want to talk about it, go to a psychotherapist. I don't want to know that you gave up a child in pregnancy but are luckily blessed with some now. What's with having to tell everyone and see if society accepts?

And if you don't you're a lesser human being than Roisin...the confessor of sins.

So what? We all make mistakes or have regrets. But we don't have to gain mass approval for them. She couldn't sleep in the run up to her "coming out" as having an abortion, worrying what everyone would think. Didn't stop her though...career above all else. Just like it didn't stop her having the abortion. She's entitled and not representative of women who have to make difficult decisions about abortion.

I'm really fed up with this climate lately of "fascist acceptance". I never had a problem with abortion. I've friends who have had them and I've supported them. I've never minded what sexuality or gender a person is. But I do mind this culture of "I'm this" and "I'm that"...and you better accept it or I'm going to humiliate you and your outmoded and backward opinions and write articles about how parochial your thinking is because I've a voice as a writer in a major newspaper.

Just shut up and focus on more pressing needs in society like our homeless crises or lack of supports for the silent vulnerables of our society that have no voice or platform.

Acceptance is for all...including "bigots". Accepting them may in the long run lead them to seeing each person as a unique individual deserving of respect. But this "acceptance of certain groups or else" is just as fascist and insular as the opinions of bigots. Only the former can climb the himalayas of rightiousness over the bones of less enlightened mortals as they are brave for "sharing".

Do us all a favour next time Roisin et al and think twice about sharing as I for one couldn't give a monkey's stool sample what you do.

P.S.

I've just realised I've "come out" as being a moany bitch. Wonder can I get sympathy, a referendum to have the right to be a miserable sod enshrined in our constitution or even just a book deal perchance??

No? Didn't think so...that's still a taboo.

Well you didn't let people give you a reply I guess.

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I'm not a fan of Roisin, but many people do care that she had an abortion and talked about it - e.g. others who had an abortion.

Noodles81

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I'm not a fan of Roisin, but many people do care that she had an abortion and talked about it - e.g. others who had an abortion.[/quote]

Yes that's true. I just felt that she wasn't gracious about it. She kept going on about the reaction and what if society had been against her. Instead of championing the cause of abortion, it was championing brave Roisin.

Just as it went on I got fed up with her.

Yes it was a total rant, no excuses for it really, it just flowed out of me. At least my family won't have to suffer my little diatribe now at dinner. I'll be all sunshine and roses and full of the milk of human kindness. My parents love Roisin, maybe I'm just jealous!!


Enjoy your Sunday. :-)

sonny.knowles

donvito99 wrote: »

I think she's very good.

Has she got some talent(s) that we aren't aware of?

arayess

Azalea wrote: »

Well you didn't let people give you a reply I guess.

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I'm not a fan of Roisin, but many people do care that she had an abortion and talked about it - e.g. others who had an abortion.

they don't really, many women who have had abortions aren't campaigners seeking vindication from people they don't like anyway,

for all the liberalism in the media it strikes me that the liberal town crier types like roisin hark back to a catholic ireland in that they are obsessed with social acceptance and seeking approval. demanding approval in fact.
Its like they do care what the neighbours think.

most people coulon't give a hoot if you had an abortion (which I believe is morally wrong but I'm not on a crusade) , take drugs, take multiple penetrations in the bum or whatever.
few people care.

Azalea

Noodles81 wrote: »

Yes it was a total rant, no excuses for it really, it just flowed out of me. At least my family won't have to suffer my little diatribe now at dinner. I'll be all sunshine and roses and full of the milk of human kindness. My parents love Roisin, maybe I'm just jealous!!


Enjoy your Sunday. :-)

I didnt say anything about it being a rant.

But anyway arayess, while I totally agree Roisin is a self obsessed headwreck, I don't think you can speak for others - my impression was a lot of people appreciated someone talking about what it was like to go through having an abortion. Especially when it's still not possible to have one in this country.

Dubl07

arayess wrote: »

they don't really, many women who have had abortions aren't campaigners seeking vindication from people they don't like anyway,

for all the liberalism in the media it strikes me that the liberal town crier types like roisin hark back to a catholic ireland in that they are obsessed with social acceptance and seeking approval. demanding approval in fact.
Its like they do care what the neighbours think.

most people coulon't give a hoot if you had an abortion (which I believe is morally wrong but I'm not on a crusade) , take drugs, take multiple penetrations in the bum or whatever.
few people care.

The problem is that it's still mostly 'wrong' in the eyes of the law and too many health professionals. So women still have to travel to get an abortion if they can afford one, or bear the child if they're too broke to travel.

Women whose contraception has failed still have to travel. Women with health problems or with non-viable foetuses still have to travel in too many instances if they can afford it. Women who have been subject to rape, incest still have to travel if they can afford it.

If they're too broke to travel aren't they too broke to have a child they don't really want?

Adequately or properly raising a child from infancy to self-sufficiency takes a lot of time, love, money and support. It's the wise woman who realises that the circumstances aren't right.

Denying a woman an abortion on the grounds of your personal morality is very dubious in the scheme of things. Denying a woman an abortion in the case of a dying foetus or denying an abortion where the mother's physical or mental wellbeing is in danger is cruel and reprehensible.

Yes, Roisin (and other IT female journo's) may have developed a rather cosy cabal over the last couple of decades but you know what? The men had similar for centuries. Fewer Breda O'Briens thank you and more Roisin Ingles.

arayess

Dubl07 wrote: »

The problem is that it's still mostly 'wrong' in the eyes of the law and too many health professionals. So women still have to travel to get an abortion if they can afford one, or bear the child if they're too broke to travel.

Women whose contraception has failed still have to travel. Women with health problems or with non-viable foetuses still have to travel in too many instances if they can afford it. Women who have been subject to rape, incest still have to travel if they can afford it.

If they're too broke to travel aren't they too broke to have a child they don't really want?

Adequately or properly raising a child from infancy to self-sufficiency takes a lot of time, love, money and support. It's the wise woman who realises that the circumstances aren't right.

Denying a woman an abortion on the grounds of your personal morality is very dubious in the scheme of things. Denying a woman an abortion in the case of a dying foetus or denying an abortion where the mother's physical or mental wellbeing is in danger is cruel and reprehensible.

Yes, Roisin (and other IT female journo's) may have developed a rather cosy cabal over the last couple of decades but you know what? The men had similar for centuries. Fewer Breda O'Briens thank you and more Roisin Ingles.

i'm a big believer in bashing ms. Ingle so I'm not dragging this off topic into the wrongs of abortion.
I'm not a believer in a Breda O'Brien world but she isn't as in my face as Ingle perhaps due to Ingle's cheerleaders in the media whereas O'#Brien hasn't as many

I could debate you all day on abortion but keep your powder dry as that day will no doubt come again...but here isn't the place.

back to slating that fool!

arayess

Carlo Ancelotti wrote: »

Always amazed how people continiously read newspapers or columns that annoy them, then go on a rant about how annoying it is

its' kinda important to read opposing views to your own, it shows you their thinking but occasionally it'll open your mind.
never with Ingle though

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Carlo Ancelotti wrote: »

Always amazed how people continiously read newspapers or columns that annoy them, then go on a rant about how annoying it is

Well given the power of the media, I think it's important that people read and challenge journalists and columnists who they feel are less than impartial, self indulgent, bigotted or whatever. That's not going on a 'rant', it's expressing a view.

Glad I'm not the only one who finds her self righteous. She's been almost dictatorial in some of her recent columns; 'you either think this way/vote this way or you're unkind, mean spirited, backward etc'. She's almost as intolerant as some of the people she berates.

tmh106

Boring username wrote: »

There isn't enough facepalm in the world for this.... :rolleyes:

We are criticising a ****e 'journalist', what's between their legs doesn't even come into it. It'll be Kevin Myers next week, or will that be man hating?

The post I was replying to (and which I quoted in my reply) stated "All the females who write for the Sunday Times are rabid feminists." So, for the poster of the post I was replying to at least, I'd say the fact that the journalist in question is a woman is critical to his or her displeasure.

lazeedaisy

Carlo Ancelotti wrote: »

Always amazed how people continiously read newspapers or columns that annoy them, then go on a rant about how annoying it is

I find it odd that people never read all thread replies....

In this case it has been said its the be thing some people don't read.

I for one don't and won't read her, yes I buy the newspaper, A newspaper is not just one columnist. Thank god!