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Have you ever asked for a raise?

  • 25-10-2015 8:13am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4


    I've done it quite a few times in my current job as I felt I was underpaid. It resulted in a 13% raise one year followed by a 14% raise the following year. Recently I handed in my notice having gotten an offer which is a 34% increase on current salary. My employer gave me a counter offer matching it but I decided to leave anyway. So for me it has paid off pushing for more money.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Only when I can't reach the shelf.










    Gets coat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    eternal wrote: »
    Only when I can't reach the shelf.










    Gets coat.

    I don't think that's what they meant. I reckon it's a raise in monetary sense. In their job perhaps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Every 1 - 2 years depending on how the company is doing. Even during the recession, when I didn't think I would get one, I still asked because it set the expectation that I wanted one and if money came available I wanted to be on the list of people getting a share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    Dan Carter wrote: »
    I've done it quite a few times in my current job as I felt I was underpaid. It resulted in a 13% raise one year followed by a 14% raise the following year. Recently I handed in my notice having gotten an offer which is a 34% increase on current salary. My employer gave me a counter offer matching it but I decided to leave anyway. So for me it has paid off pushing for more money.

    That why you're off to Racing Metro? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Dan Carter wrote: »
    I've done it quite a few times in my current job as I felt I was underpaid. It resulted in a 13% raise one year followed by a 14% raise the following year. Recently I handed in my notice having gotten an offer which is a 34% increase on current salary. My employer gave me a counter offer matching it but I decided to leave anyway. So for me it has paid off pushing for more money.

    yes more than once..
    I found it was the only way to get a pay rise.

    i'd a friend in your position . he was asking for a pay rise for many years and was told no.
    when he resigned they offered to match his new jobs money.
    He told them their counteroffer only made him more determined to leave as it proved they were stonewalling his requests for more money previously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Dan Carter wrote: »
    I've done it quite a few times in my current job as I felt I was underpaid. It resulted in a 13% raise one year followed by a 14% raise the following year. Recently I handed in my notice having gotten an offer which is a 34% increase on current salary. My employer gave me a counter offer matching it but I decided to leave anyway. So for me it has paid off pushing for more money.

    That all looks impressive but what was the base scale and what is the going rate for the work involved? If the industry norm is 60k pa and you're getting 40k then it makes sense. It you're already on 60k then you couldn't ask for those increases. I never asked for a raise because I had an incremental scale of salary and never felt the need. Promotions also brought pay increases. By agreeing a salary scale, that remunerated me properly in the first place, I didn't need to go looking for raises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭sonny.knowles


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I don't think that's what they meant. I reckon it's a raise in monetary sense. In their job perhaps

    Well spotted, that makes more sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I don't think that's what they meant. I reckon it's a raise in monetary sense. In their job perhaps

    Woosh! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I work in the public sector so I wouldn't be able to get a raise, no matter how much it's deserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    What's the appropriate way to ask for a raise ?

    Right wording etc ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Rikand wrote: »
    What's the appropriate way to ask for a raise ?

    Right wording etc ?
    use the Reginald Perrin technique ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I work in the public sector so I wouldn't be able to get a raise, no matter how much it's deserved.

    One of the reasons I left - very enjoyable work, but you can work your nuts off, and you'll still only get the same as the lazy arse beside you.

    The final straw came when they promoted the most incompetent fool in the place just to get rid of him and stop him doing damage.

    Now, I don't so much ask for a raise as negotiate certain clear performance measures into my contract with bonus or increases linked to achieving them.

    If you are asking for a raise you have to be very clear as to why you deserve it and what you've done to earn it. Comparisons with other people especially in other companies don't tend to work very well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 367 ✭✭justchecked


    Rikand wrote: »
    What's the appropriate way to ask for a raise ?

    Right wording etc ?

    Me and the guys from the union been talkin, and we think you'd probably like to give us a raise before you walk home this evening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 Popepalatime


    Woosh! :D

    I'll see your whoosh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Don't have to, Sure the PUBLIC SECTOR just get them every year regardless of wanting them or not, sometimes twice a year:eek:

    And the pension...don't get me started on how good that is!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    not yet wrote: »
    Don't have to, Sure the PUBLIC SECTOR just get them every year regardless of wanting them or not, sometimes twice a year:eek:

    And the pension...don't get me started on how good that is!!

    So much wrong in one post, hard to know where to start


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    not yet wrote: »
    Don't have to, Sure the PUBLIC SECTOR just get them every year regardless of wanting them or not, sometimes twice a year:eek:

    And the pension...don't get me started on how good that is!!

    There's a lot wrong with the public sector in this country, but automatic pay rises are no longer one of them.

    Also, can't speak for everyone in all instances, but my private pension pot is worth more than my public pension one - if it was possible I'd pull my contributions from the public scheme and port them into a better pot. Unfortunately no such mechanism exists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    So much wrong in one post, hard to know where to start

    Go on, give it a go...




















































    But keep in mind it was posted in jest..

    off you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Jawgap wrote: »
    There's a lot wrong with the public sector in this country, but automatic pay rises are no longer one of them.

    Also, can't speak for everyone in all instances, but my private pension pot is worth more than my public pension one - if it was possible I'd pull my contributions from the public scheme and port them into a better pot. Unfortunately no such mechanism exists.


    Well that is true re: pay rises, but the PS is not the PS of 10years ago, the figure employed has dropped from approx 320k to 270k. I also see huge changes in work practices, Huge changes is sick leave etc..

    This is not to say there is more to be done, but you could say the same about parts of the private sector, anyways, this is not the place for this debate, my post was a p1sstake which obviously missed it's mark..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Yes I've asked and gotten them a few times in my current role - sometimes it might have taken a few months or a bit longer but got what I wanted in the end.
    If you have a legitimate justification/can show why you deserve it, and can benchmark against similar roles it's usually successful.

    Of course building effective working relationships is just as important as the above to get ahead, financially and in terms of promotion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Rikand wrote: »
    What's the appropriate way to ask for a raise ?

    Right wording etc ?
    "I'd like a raise."

    What's important is not how you ask, but how you respond to the answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,136 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Yes. Got 2k less than what I considered the lowest I'd take; took it for long enough to get a mortgage based on it and left for another 7k almost immediately after. They counter offered then, by a big margin, but the job was so noxious I wasn't staying - they had their chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I work in the public sector so I wouldn't be able to get a raise, no matter how much it's deserved.

    But I'd imagine its a nice base yeah ?

    so no need to ask really .

    Also, let me guess ... 6 weeks paid holidays a year and 30 hour working weeks ?


    ah yeah ... well for some ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    But I'd imagine its a nice base yeah ?
    so no need to ask really .
    Also, let me guess ... 6 weeks paid holidays a year and 30 hour working weeks ?
    ah yeah ... well for some ...
    not yet wrote: »
    Don't have to, Sure the PUBLIC SECTOR just get them every year regardless of wanting them or not, sometimes twice a year

    And the pension...don't get me started on how good that is!!

    These are to a boards thread what an incendiary grenade in a fireworks factory achieves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    But I'd imagine its a nice base yeah ?

    so no need to ask really .

    Also, let me guess ... 6 weeks paid holidays a year and 30 hour working weeks ?


    ah yeah ... well for some ...

    I'm in the PS. I get 20 days annual leave and work 37.5 hours. But you know, don't let facts get in the way of a good dig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭FGR


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    I'm in the PS. I get 20 days annual leave and work 37.5 hours.

    What?! How dare you have the statutory minimum allocation of annual leave a year. You're clearly leeching from the private sector and should be working 24/7/365.

    /the ibec way of thinking :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    But I'd imagine its a nice base yeah ?

    so no need to ask really .

    Also, let me guess ... 6 weeks paid holidays a year and 30 hour working weeks ?


    ah yeah ... well for some ...

    No I get paid leas than I would in the private sector, not least because I have to pay just under 1000 a year in pension levy.

    I get 23 days holidays and do 37 hours.

    Oh and my public sector body isn't funded by the public funnily enough, so none of that is any of your business.

    Do you want to give the details of your employment so that we can find something to try to shame you over?


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