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Jean-Claude Juncker is right. Europe is dying

  • 23-10-2015 9:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭


    I know its not strictly religious or Even Christian, However the speech that Jean-Claude Juncker gave in madrid was interesting. Europe is dying.

    Ireland currently has the highest birth rate in Europe.

    Will our christian values save us from extinction?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    No, immigration will though. Movement of people has been happening since there have been people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    cattolico wrote: »
    I know its not strictly religious or Even Christian, However the speech that Jean-Claude Juncker gave in madrid was interesting. Europe is dying.

    Ireland currently has the highest birth rate in Europe.

    Will our christian values save us from extinction?

    What makes you think all this those babies are going to be raised Christian?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What makes you think all this those babies are going to be raised Christian?

    Well they'll be baptised if their parents want to get them into a school but for the most part that'll be where it ends. Catholicism might still point to their bapsitism figures as proof that things as OK but it's glossing over things in the extreme.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Christendom in the historic context was a core consitutent of Europe. For mostly better and sometimes worse it was a main skein of the past 500 years during which European ideas and power had dominated the world. Now with the waning of the former coincides with the latter's dimunination and a turning by its Elites to a more utiliarian philosophy and others to a more consumer one. Thus the faith communities that made up Christianity will likely continue to be part of Europe but one much changed and the centres of power will be the developing world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    "The Left" has sought to assert the authority of the State over everything since the start of the 20th century.

    Before the State existed, citizens were ruled by monarchy.
    Even those monarch's, unlike the Left, recognised God.

    Flags and emblems carried statements such as "Dieu et mon droit" and "Rex Angliæ Dei gratia"

    I don't hark for the days of monarchy, but I can't ignore that these monarchies recognised that power, even political power, derives from God.

    The same European Union was asked by the Catholic Church not to remove references to God in their documentation, but the European Union ignored that request.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭cattolico


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What makes you think all this those babies are going to be raised Christian?

    The 180 thousand poles brought 200 Polish Priests to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭Nick Park


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What makes you think all this those babies are going to be raised Christian?

    Nobody said they were. The thread is about Europe dying, not about Christianity dying.

    Immigration will counteract declining birth rates in Europe, irrespective of what religion their children choose to embrace.


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