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Education Equality March Sunday 25th October

  • 23-10-2015 2:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    There are many people and groups actively trying to revoke section 7.3(c) of the Equal Status Act 2000 that allows 90% of state funded schools to discriminate against children without baptism certs.

    HAI
    AI as part of their PACT campaign
    Barrister Paddy Monahan with a petition being submitted to the Joint Oireacthas Committee on Petititons


    There is a march by many of the good people involved this Sunday to raise further awareness. Including Paddy, Rupesh and Nikki mentioned in the Article below.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/no-baptism-no-school-irish-parents-fight-for-equal-access-to-education?CMP=twt_gu

    I appreciate that this issue is an issue that tends to only affect people with children from age 4 - 18 and many posters are not currently directly affected.
    But this will affect everybody on this forum at some stage of their lives.

    We are getting massive publicity over this topic in the last six months and RTE have committed to covering the march.
    Please jump off boards for an hour and come for a nice stroll if you're around Dublin.
    Stall it! - It's not as if you're off to mass :)

    EVENT DETAILS
    https://www.facebook.com/events/904595426283106/

    Note: We know this is only a step towards the ideal secular system and not a silver bullet.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,538 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Not a peep about this anywhere outside their facebook bubble

    For those of us who will never have a facebook account on principle, is there anywhere else to get information on this?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Not a peep about this anywhere outside their facebook bubble

    For those of us who will never have a facebook account on principle, is there anywhere else to get information on this?

    Rupesh Panicker initiated this and has been in a variety of media outlets, Irish Times and on radio with Ray Darcy talking about his march.

    Admittedly, it was a bit short notice so the other people/groups and campaigns involved are jumping in to show support and drum up numbers.

    His original petition can be found here.
    https://www.change.org/p/equality-in-education-remove-religious-discrimination-in-irish-schools


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,538 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'd heard about the petition alright, nothing in the media about a march though.

    Like most people who have to work for a living I don't have the luxury of listening to the radio during the day...

    Still nothing at all about it on irishtimes.com or rte.ie

    This is the only thing on Google (and I only use google when DuckDuckGo doesn't turn up anything :p ) -

    http://tipperary.republican/index.php/2015/10/23/historic-educational-apartheid-march-in-dublin/

    Didn't know there was a .republican TLD :eek:

    For the record, 12 noon Sunday 25th Oct at the Dail marching to the Dept Education.

    They should have given themselves enough time to organise this properly, I can't see this getting the turnout it should, unfortunately.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Tbh I agree. But when well meaning people who aren't generally involved in campaigning this kind of thing can happen.

    Two options - criticise them or just get stuck in and give them a dig out :)
    Grab a shovel and I'll see you on Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,538 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We were planning on a lazy Sunday morning and a nice big bank holiday weekend fry-up brunch, but I suppose we can forego that for a good cause...

    I've posted a link in the School Patronage thread.

    will see if I can get a podcast of today's D'Arcy show... - skipped through all of today's show, nothing. No mention of it in the summaries of the shows over the last week.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,538 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We were there en famille.

    The figure quoted of 200 people is accurate. It's a start.

    It is simply wrong that a child can be excluded from their local school on the basis of religion. We need to stop this, and it's a simple legislative change. Talk to your TDs and election candidates. The patronage issue is a bigger and thornier problem, but as a first step we need to end religious discrimination in enrolment.

    The fry-up has been postponed until tomorrow :)

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Zamboni wrote: »
    IT citing the only 1 catholic school divested that Jan O'Sulllivan challenged last week saying there 8

    https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2015-10-06a.115&s=%22School+Patronage%22#g123
    searching for them here
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13R1okxdWxoxvtefMWkmluRxKJ46tDvzhVOIB6d88dg0/edit?usp=sharing trim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Education Equality: 'Gathering for Change' demonstration in Dublin on July 3rd http://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=a6a357e575d7a81f7cec276ea&id=9dc73b4b9c&e=[UNIQID another protest organised for a Sunday :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,538 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Anyone else from here go to this today?

    Good turnout (a few hundred), they had placards this time which they didn't the last time (we brought homemade ones anyway), Paddy Monahan was on the loudhailer and did a great job of it, the speakers at the end were good, especially April Duff! It's up to us now to keep banging the drum with TDs, social media, letters to papers etc. and not let this issue fade away as Bruton appears to wish with his idea of doing nothing for a year. Children are being disadvantaged purely on the grounds of religion and to allow that to continue a day longer when it's in his power to end it is simply wrong.

    I might be in the paper tomorrow as one of the photographers there was definitely media and she asked four of us for a picture holding our placards :cool:

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    We were there. Bigger turnout than I expected!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    I did the Ring of Kerry cycle on Saturday, so didn't make it back - and probably couldn't have stood around for very long if I had :o

    Hope it was both fun and useful!


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