How do I have my details removed from your database?

galwayfellaBETA

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

GrayFox208

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

I notice you mentioned this is the third time, maybe no one answered you the first two but so long as you use mains water systems you are using a service which belongs to Irish water. You don't have to like it, that's just the way it is. Get every solicitor in the country involved it won't make a shred of difference mate. This isnt a choice you have you use the water you pay the bill. You walk into a shop and fill up a trolley you can't walk out for free because you never signed a contract. Listen to yourself.

caff

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...  

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.  

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you,  can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.  
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

Dig a well and get a septic tank installed.

Or wait till next election and vote for someone who will fund water provision via general taxation.
Those are you choices.

GrayFox208

caff wrote: »

Dig a well and get a septic tank installed.

Or wait till next election and vote for someone who will fund water provision via general taxation.
Those are you choices.

And if you choose the latter in the interim you'll have to pay for your water.

bren2002

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

I'd doubt a solicitor would get involved in this. I might be wrong but I'd imagine professional standards would prevent them taking your case.

GrayFox208

bren2002 wrote: »

I'd doubt a solicitor would get involved in this. I might be wrong but I'd imagine professional stanards would prevent them taking your case.

He doesn't have a case to begin with.

caff

GrayFox208 wrote: »

And if you choose the latter in the interim you'll have to pay for your water.

could just delay delay get a court date be held in contempt and then have a suspended sentence

GrayFox208

caff wrote: »

could just delay delay get a court date be held in contempt and then have a suspended sentence

It's probably a little more likely he'd just be laughed at.

Laura_A

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...  

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.  

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you,  can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.  
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

Get your solicitor involved? My god people like you are ridiculous, no solicitor will tell you that you can LEGALLY refuse to pay a bill for a service YOU ARE USING!!! Almost every other European country pays for water and has done for years, the mentality of Irish people not wanting to pay their own way is absolutely astonishing. Ownership lies with the government who pay for the infrastructure, they passed the reigns onto a semi state to collect payment for use. Its very simple. 

You don't need to sign a stupid contract and its not harassment - pay your bill!! 

If you want free water have your mains turned off and grab a bucket - collect rain water or drink from the liffey and use a bucket as a toilet. This is the only water that is free if you want it to be treated and clean when it comes our of the tap then just get on with it and pay your bills like the rest of us who constantly pay our own way and have to listen to idiots like you complaining. You use it you pay for it - goes for any utility. Seriously cop on! 

galwayfellaBETA

I would like to thank all the lemmings that replied, on behalf of 'Irish Water'. You all are a shining light in a dim, dull country, patriots one and all ;-)

Not one of you seem in the least bit concerned with who/what will control the water that the Irish People will use. Shame on you ALL.

To 'GrayFox208': "you are using a service which belongs to Irish water".

Incorrect. The Irish people own this water and it's supply system. I, my parents and my grandparents all have contributed a LOT of tax to put what we have in place. I'm happy to contribute more, but I'm NOT doing it for the benefit of anyone but the Irish people.


'bren2002': "professional standards"
Come on it is 'Irish Water' we are speaking of!


'Laura_A ': I would like to personally thank you for taking the time to reply on behalf of Irish Water. I have no problem paying for water. I have a huge problem with the fact that all it would take for the Irish people to lose ownership of our water supply is two signatories from crony politicians - please wake up!


I would hope that all of you are so forthright that in years to come, when our water supply is owned by some entity other than the Irish people, you will all sit your grandchildren on you knee and explain to them why a rich man must profit when they have a bath.

NOW: if all the unofficial Irish Water wannabies could mind their own business... can I have a reply from a someone in 'Irish Water'?

Boards.ie: Niamh

galwayfellaBETA, might I remind you to be civil to fellow site members? The dripping sarcasm has been noted and is completely unnecessary. 

Do not respond to this post on thread - discussing mod actions or warnings on thread may result in further action.  

ejabrod

Boards.ie: Niamh wrote: »

galwayfellaBETA, might I remind you to be civil to fellow site members? The dripping sarcasm has been noted and is completely unnecessary.

Do not respond to this post on thread - discussing mod actions or warnings on thread may result in further action.

IMO this is an attack on a member for no reason. galwayfellaBETA is responding in the same tone as other members (GrayFox208, bren2002 & Laura_A) have responded to the OP, yet the other members are not being reprimanded?

Since when is sarcasm a reason to be 'noted'?

It would appear a Boards representative is expressing a bias against the OP.

So much for net neutrality :rolleyes:

sonny.knowles

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...  

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.  

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you,  can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.  
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

I'd love to hear with your solicitor has to say about this. Ask him about your harassing Irish Water on this forum as well. Get a life.

Willfarman

Gray fox I have to question your anology here.  If I walk into a shop I put my goods in a basket, and pay the full cost of the goods at the check out.  Yes correct.

 If I consume mains water, and I pay the said Bill issued I still only pay for the price of the bill being issued.  The pumped water is still being pumped and being payed for by some  other means?  Am I incorrectly informed that if all water bills are payed it just about covers the cost of the metering and administration of the bills?  

Boards.ie: Niamh

ejabrod wrote: »

Boards.ie: Niamh wrote: »

galwayfellaBETA, might I remind you to be civil to fellow site members? The dripping sarcasm has been noted and is completely unnecessary.

Do not respond to this post on thread - discussing mod actions or warnings on thread may result in further action.  

IMO this is an attack on a member for no reason. galwayfellaBETA is responding in the same tone as other members (GrayFox208, bren2002 & Laura_A) have responded to the OP, yet the other members are not being reprimanded?

Since when is sarcasm a reason to be 'noted'?

It would appear a Boards representative is expressing a bias against the OP.

So much for net neutrality :rolleyes:

User warned for ignoring Mod instruction. 

TallGlass

To be honest. I don't see why IW don't remove the user from the database and network? What's the issue here with other users on this site. If I want to cancel my account with Meteor they cancel my account switch it off and thats the end of it.

These requests should be treated the same as above, no need to mention anything else. If the customer wishes to have the account closed, then close the account and switch the supply off. It really is that simple.

Has it ever occurred to people that some people may not actually need water what so ever? So theres no point getting a massive bill to boil the kettle once a day. Some people on this site need to drop off the high horse and let others have there views and calm down. You pay your water bill, good stuff. We all pay bills and some people don't, its life. Relax.

mikehn

GrayFox208 wrote: »

Regarding Grey foxes comment "And if you choose the latter in the interim you'll have to pay for your water."

The poster was paying for his water prior to "Irish Water" through general taxation. He is still paying through general taxation but his contribution is earmarked for other purposes hence the statement that he is no longer paying for his water. I pay all my taxes including property tax, prior to Irish water if the government had said that I would have to pay say 200€ P.A. for the next 5 years to sort out the infrastructure then I would have no problem with that.
What I do have a problem is the horrific wasteful way that Irish Water was set up, it is another black hole for taxpayers money and I have had enough. I will continue to pay all my other taxes but I have to take a stand on this, I will go to jail rather that pay Irish Water. The message has to go back to government that they have to wake up and make decisions that are in the best interest of the country and be prudent with taxpayers money.
I note that we have had no response the the initial post from Irish Water.

Boards.ie: Niamh

People - if you wish to discuss the very existence of Irish Water, whether or not you should pay your bill, whether or nor you think you are already paying for water, etc. - take it to one of the many threads already discussing same in the Politics or Politics Cafe forums.

If you have a question about your Irish Water account, meter or bill then please do post here in the Talk to Irish Water forum. Any more off-topic posts will simply be deleted from the thread. 

rubberdiddies

Any reason why IW hasn't replied to this legitimate question?

Can IW confirm whether they must remove someones details from their systems if requested by that person?

I'd be interested to know too

Carlos Orange

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Any reason why IW hasn't replied to this legitimate question?

They are probably prioritising people they haven't already answered twice.

rubberdiddies

psinno wrote: »

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Any reason why IW hasn't replied to this legitimate question?

They are probably prioritising people they haven't already answered twice.

with all due respect, my query was directed at IW. I'll wait for them to reply. Thanks though

Irish Water: Niall

Hi galwayfellaBETA,

Thank you for contacting us.

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

As we have previously advised, the Water Services Act deems a customer liable for water charges if they are connected to the public water/wasterwater mains infrastructure. We cannot cut off supply unless there is a valid reason such as providing your own supply i.e. private well, private group water scheme and/or a septic tank.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

JigglyMcJabs

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Any reason why IW hasn't replied to this legitimate question?

Can IW confirm whether they must remove someones details from their systems if requested by that person?

I'd be interested to know too

Putting the word 'legitimate' in the question, doesn't make it a legitimate question.

Do you think a phone company, electric company or gas company has to delete your details on request but continue to provide service?

galwayfellaBETA

psinno wrote: »

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Any reason why IW hasn't replied to this legitimate question?

They are probably prioritising people they haven't already answered twice.

psinno, thanks for your concern,  however I have yet to receive a reply from 'Irish Water' !



Boards.ie: Niamh:  As this is a "talk to Irish Water" board, could I (non-sarcastically) suggest, you deal with the 'Irish Water Wannabies' rather than those that have legitimate questions!     I put up a post, only to return to see a number of people attacking me.

"Do not respond to this post on thread - discussing mod actions or warnings on thread may result in further action. "  

Sorry Niamh, I will not be censored for sarcasm.      ejabrod, receiving a warning for that post is incredible!    I would suggest that you are overstepping your mark here and showing a bias!    I'm happy that I have that said, do what you must. 

galwayfellaBETA

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi galwayfellaBETA,

Thank you for contacting us.

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

As we have previously advised, the Water Services Act deems a customer liable for water charges if they are connected to the public water/wasterwater mains infrastructure. We cannot cut off supply unless there is a valid reason such as providing your own supply i.e. private well, private group water scheme and/or a septic tank.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Niall,

Not at all helpful I'm afraid

Once again,  I am NOT a 'customer'.  Please show me my signature on some 'Irish Water' contract !

I will submit to becoming a 'customer' the day the Irish Peoples water supply is protected from profiteering. 

As a free citizen of this country, how do I have my details removed from your commercial database ??

thereitisgone

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi galwayfellaBETA,

Thank you for contacting us.

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

As we have previously advised, the Water Services Act deems a customer liable for water charges if they are connected to the public water/wasterwater mains infrastructure. We cannot cut off supply unless there is a valid reason such as providing your own supply i.e. private well, private group water scheme and/or a septic tank.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Niall,

Not at all helpful I'm afraid

Once again,  I am NOT a 'customer'.  Please show me my signature on some 'Irish Water' contract !

I will submit to becoming a 'customer' the day the Irish Peoples water supply is protected from profiteering. 

As a free citizen of this country, how do I have my details removed from your commercial database ??

Confused a little here, Galway fella are you using Irish waters product, if so you must pay for this service. If not then definitely Irish water should delete all Galway fellas details.
If the problem is you are using their product and because you have not personally signed up to pay for this product then i think you may have a little problem.
Although you think you might not have signed up for it you have decided to live in a country where the majority of the population elected a goverenment and gave them the mandate to make this decision on your behalf.

galwayfellaBETA

thereitisgone wrote: »

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Irish Water: Niall wrote: »

Hi galwayfellaBETA,

Thank you for contacting us.

galwayfellaBETA wrote: »

Once again, I have received a 'bill' which references 'my account'...

This is the third time!


As I would rather rot in hell than in anyway legitimise this crony ridden scam to privatise our water supply, I have no intention of 'becoming a customer'.

As I have never and never will accept that I have an 'account' with you, can you please outline to me how I can have my details removed from your commercial database.

Until the issue of the ownership of our water supply is properly sorted out - I WILL NEVER BE A CUSTOMER - GET IT!

I have NEVER registered with IW.
I have NEVER entered in to a contract with IW.
Yet you continue to harass me!



Do I actually have to get my solicitor involved?

As we have previously advised, the Water Services Act deems a customer liable for water charges if they are connected to the public water/wasterwater mains infrastructure. We cannot cut off supply unless there is a valid reason such as providing your own supply i.e. private well, private group water scheme and/or a septic tank.

I hope this information helps.

Thanks,
Niall

Niall,

Not at all helpful I'm afraid

Once again, I am NOT a 'customer'. Please show me my signature on some 'Irish Water' contract !

I will submit to becoming a 'customer' the day the Irish Peoples water supply is protected from profiteering.

As a free citizen of this country, how do I have my details removed from your commercial database ??

Confused a little here, Galway fella are you using Irish waters product, if so you must pay for this service. If not then definitely Irish water should delete all Galway fellas details.
If the problem is you are using their product and because you have not personally signed up to pay for this product then i think you may have a little problem.
Although you think you might not have signed up for it you have decided to live in a country where the majority of the population elected a goverenment and gave them the mandate to make this decision on your behalf.

thereitisgone

I don't know why you are confused. I simply refuse to take part in this con job.... its a civil protest.

I did not 'decide' to live here, I was born here.

I would contest that it is not "Irish Waters Product", they do not own our water (they would like to, that is for sure) .... it is the Irish peoples 'product'! IMHO calling a nations water supply a 'product' is questionable on many levels.

I completely agree with water metering, its a great way to conserve a resource, had it been done correctly, I would have been a cheerleader for the project.

I voted for this government based on this and other promises (now broken). However I did not vote for a thinly veiled, crony ridden, attempt rob the Irish people of the ownership its water supply and it infrastructure.

I politely declined a water meter when 'Irish Water' came installing. I'm declining their offer of becoming a customer and I want my details removed from their database.

Boards.ie: Niamh

galwayfellaBETA warned for deliberately ignoring a Mod instruction. If you have an issue with the posts you referenced, use the Report POst function, that is what it's there for. 

Since your question has been answered, I am closing the thread.