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Dublin to Castlebar route

  • 19-10-2015 8:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Is this motorway/dual carriageway all the way to Castlebar - M4, N4, N5 ??? And is the only toll at Enfield?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Its a motorway to near Mullingar then Duel past Mullingar and then single lane to Castlebar. Only one toll to Castlebar.

    Have a look here

    https://www.google.ie/maps/


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Its a motorway to near Mullingar then Duel past Mullingar and then single lane to Castlebar. Only one toll to Castlebar.

    Have a look here

    https://www.google.ie/maps/
    which is 150km of non motorway.

    When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

    I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    which is 150km of non motorway.

    When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

    I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.

    Did you ever drive through it on a Friday evening. So you want to send people to Galway and from there to the n5 . Have you seen the price of petrol


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 66,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Have you seen the price of petrol

    At its cheapest since January and for many years before that?

    Significantly longer routes that have consistent speeds often end up winning out over "faster" shorter routes. There are people who take the M1/A1/M1 NI/A5 to get from Dublin to somewhere beyond Ballygawley even though its massively longer - solely because its DC the whole way. One truck on the N5 SC could cost you 20mins, and thats if you only get stuck behind one.

    The M17 won't be open for some time, anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,061 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Is this motorway/dual carriageway all the way to Castlebar - M4, N4, N5 ??? And is the only toll at Enfield?

    Dual Carriageway all the way to castlebar from Dublin - maybe in 2065.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭unit 1


    Think of the following route in the near future, Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown, Dublin.
    This would give the existing n5 a good run for its money, especially for hgvs and the likes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭supersean1999


    Damn it with all the money that Was wasted. Is it to much to ask that the two routes are of decent standard


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭guylikeme


    Damn it with all the money that Was wasted. Is it to much to ask that the two routes are of decent standard

    Not with the traffic counts on n5 no. Not enough bang for buck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Traffic count? What's the traffic count from Gort to Tuam?


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭guylikeme


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Traffic count? What's the traffic count from Gort to Tuam?

    Since you asked, 19,000 at Kilcolgan, 20,000 at Claregalway and 13,000 between there and Tuam

    N5 at Frenchpark (for example) has 5,000

    https://www.nratrafficdata.ie/c2/gmapbasic.asp?sgid=ZvyVmXU8jBt9PJE$c7UXt6

    So yes, we should prioritise looking after the majority where funding is tight


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  • Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭yew_tree


    The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

    For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
    A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,297 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    yew_tree wrote: »
    The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

    For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
    A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.

    Westport to Turlough DC has been included in the latest roads programme by the government. No start/end date tho


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    marno21 wrote: »
    Westport to Turlough DC has been included in the latest roads programme by the government. No start/end date tho
    the road from Ballina to Castlebar or Castlebar to Westport has 50% more traffic than the N5 - which shows really how the N5 shouldnt be the priority.

    The N5 currently has an AADT of 4500 (traffic count).
    A single lane road has a capacity of up to 13,000AADT and a dual carraigeway up to 39,000, so upgrading the N5 is so far off being necessary or a justifiable priority its not funny.
    And it a road which will essentially loose half its hinterland for long distance traffic within a couple of years thanks to the M17.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    [...]
    And it a road which will essentially loose half its hinterland for long distance traffic within a couple of years thanks to the M17.

    I wish I was so optimistic. ;)




  • which is 150km of non motorway.

    When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

    I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.

    The main reason was some trucks could not even pass through the town as the bends were too tight. They would have to get the Gardai to stop traffic so some of the trucks could turn, not very helpful for exporters!!!

    Its a 1 hour drive from Castlebar to the of start of the M17 on a very dangerous twisted road and much further for Ballina traffic, it would be a very long journey to Dublin. This bypass would not even have been questioned anywhere else in the country as such a situation would not be tolerated anywhere else. Obviously anybody that actually use the road know it should of been done decades ago. It took a threat of closure from Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter, and Hollister before it was done.

    You can bet Enda Kenny had nothing to do with it he'd do something for the Taliban before working for his own constituency, on the other hand M Ring :).




  • unit 1 wrote: »
    Think of the following route in the near future, Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown, Dublin.
    This would give the existing n5 a good run for its money, especially for hgvs and the likes.

    Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown Unless this section is seriously upgraded people will still travel the N5 as its quieter, faster and a lot less dangerous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭unit 1


    aa route planner cbar via tuam to dublin as 16 mins longer than cbar dublin, before completion of gort tuam mway.
    I'd say the new route, tuam to m6 via m17 would shave something off this and be less likely to hold ups than the current n5.
    What this means is that the most important road in mayo's future in the n60 cbar to claremorris which I think may be in the design stage.
    Maybe within 10 years cbar-ballindine-milltown-dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    yew_tree wrote: »
    The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

    For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
    A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.

    Current status here phase 5;

    http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=493

    Latest project update newsletter (July 2015)

    http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/N5-Westport-to-Turlough-A5-Flyer-030715.pdf

    .


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