Dublin to Castlebar route

vicwatson

Is this motorway/dual carriageway all the way to Castlebar - M4, N4, N5 ??? And is the only toll at Enfield?

afatbollix

Its a motorway to near Mullingar then Duel past Mullingar and then single lane to Castlebar. Only one toll to Castlebar.

Have a look here

https://www.google.ie/maps/

munchkin_utd

afatbollix wrote: »

Its a motorway to near Mullingar then Duel past Mullingar and then single lane to Castlebar. Only one toll to Castlebar.

Have a look here

https://www.google.ie/maps/

which is 150km of non motorway.

When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.

supersean1999

munchkin_utd wrote: »

which is 150km of non motorway.

When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.

Did you ever drive through it on a Friday evening. So you want to send people to Galway and from there to the n5 . Have you seen the price of petrol

L1011

supersean1999 wrote: »

Have you seen the price of petrol

At its cheapest since January and for many years before that?

Significantly longer routes that have consistent speeds often end up winning out over "faster" shorter routes. There are people who take the M1/A1/M1 NI/A5 to get from Dublin to somewhere beyond Ballygawley even though its massively longer - solely because its DC the whole way. One truck on the N5 SC could cost you 20mins, and thats if you only get stuck behind one.

The M17 won't be open for some time, anyway.

mickdw

vicwatson wrote: »

Is this motorway/dual carriageway all the way to Castlebar - M4, N4, N5 ??? And is the only toll at Enfield?

Dual Carriageway all the way to castlebar from Dublin - maybe in 2065.

unit 1

Think of the following route in the near future, Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown, Dublin.
This would give the existing n5 a good run for its money, especially for hgvs and the likes.

supersean1999

Damn it with all the money that Was wasted. Is it to much to ask that the two routes are of decent standard

guylikeme

supersean1999 wrote: »

Damn it with all the money that Was wasted. Is it to much to ask that the two routes are of decent standard

Not with the traffic counts on n5 no. Not enough bang for buck.

MayoSalmon

Traffic count? What's the traffic count from Gort to Tuam?

guylikeme

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Traffic count? What's the traffic count from Gort to Tuam?

Since you asked, 19,000 at Kilcolgan, 20,000 at Claregalway and 13,000 between there and Tuam

N5 at Frenchpark (for example) has 5,000

https://www.nratrafficdata.ie/c2/gmapbasic.asp?sgid=ZvyVmXU8jBt9PJE$c7UXt6

So yes, we should prioritise looking after the majority where funding is tight

yew_tree

The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.

marno21

yew_tree wrote: »

The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.

Westport to Turlough DC has been included in the latest roads programme by the government. No start/end date tho

munchkin_utd

marno21 wrote: »

Westport to Turlough DC has been included in the latest roads programme by the government. No start/end date tho

the road from Ballina to Castlebar or Castlebar to Westport has 50% more traffic than the N5 - which shows really how the N5 shouldnt be the priority.

The N5 currently has an AADT of 4500 (traffic count).
A single lane road has a capacity of up to 13,000AADT and a dual carraigeway up to 39,000, so upgrading the N5 is so far off being necessary or a justifiable priority its not funny.
And it a road which will essentially loose half its hinterland for long distance traffic within a couple of years thanks to the M17.

joujoujou

munchkin_utd wrote: »

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And it a road which will essentially loose half its hinterland for long distance traffic within a couple of years thanks to the M17.

I wish I was so optimistic.

munchkin_utd

munchkin_utd wrote: »

which is 150km of non motorway.

When the M17 is opened, it'll drop you 50km from Castlebar north of Tuam.

I could question why the likes of the Ballaghaderreen bypass can be even justified seeing as it is essentially being by-passed by the M17, but I wont, seeing as having the Taoiseach coming from the end of the N5 is a good a reason as any.

The main reason was some trucks could not even pass through the town as the bends were too tight. They would have to get the Gardai to stop traffic so some of the trucks could turn, not very helpful for exporters!!!

Its a 1 hour drive from Castlebar to the of start of the M17 on a very dangerous twisted road and much further for Ballina traffic, it would be a very long journey to Dublin. This bypass would not even have been questioned anywhere else in the country as such a situation would not be tolerated anywhere else. Obviously anybody that actually use the road know it should of been done decades ago. It took a threat of closure from Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter, and Hollister before it was done.

You can bet Enda Kenny had nothing to do with it he'd do something for the Taliban before working for his own constituency, on the other hand M Ring .

unit 1

unit 1 wrote: »

Think of the following route in the near future, Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown, Dublin.
This would give the existing n5 a good run for its money, especially for hgvs and the likes.

Castlebar, Balla, Claremorris, Ballindine, Milltown Unless this section is seriously upgraded people will still travel the N5 as its quieter, faster and a lot less dangerous.

unit 1

aa route planner cbar via tuam to dublin as 16 mins longer than cbar dublin, before completion of gort tuam mway.
I'd say the new route, tuam to m6 via m17 would shave something off this and be less likely to hold ups than the current n5.
What this means is that the most important road in mayo's future in the n60 cbar to claremorris which I think may be in the design stage.
Maybe within 10 years cbar-ballindine-milltown-dublin.

mayo.mick

yew_tree wrote: »

The N5 is the route for Mayo people north of a line from Casltebar for sure. I know the like of Coca Cola, Allergan, Baxter etc who are absolutely vital for the county have been putting pressure for road upgrades for years. Such companies also send freight by rail.

For me for example in the Claremorris area my route to Dublin will change to via Tuam when the motorway opens which is great. Not so great if you are from Ballina.
A new N5 dual carraigeway was/is to be built between Westport and Turlough which is just east of Castlebar....not sure what the story is with that now? The Castlebar - Westport road must be the busiest in the county and is not great for the amount of traffic on it.

Current status here phase 5;

http://www.regdesign.com/?page_id=493

Latest project update newsletter (July 2015)

http://www.regdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/N5-Westport-to-Turlough-A5-Flyer-030715.pdf

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