Grand Slam or RWC semi final

sydthebeat

Serious question regarding the reaction to the 'northern hemisphere bad, southern hemispehere good' debate thats happening

is it better to 'peak' between RWCs by winning our annual compeition, than to forgo that competition for 3 years in the aim of at least a RWC semi final.

so..

would posters prefer a Grand slam in say 2017 over a semi final appearance in the next RWC in 2019 ?

Duggie2012

grand slam thanks......at least until we think up a way to beat NZ in the next 100 years.

CZ 453

The poll needs fixed. Yes or No?

A good draw could get you to a semi final and you may not have progressed in terms of how you play. A grand slam would show some progression.

Pudsy33

Semi final closely followed by a slam. People suggesting we disregard the 6 nations is crap. Success in both is not mutually exclusive. Prior to winning the World Cup in 2003, England won 3 of the last 4 championships, including a slam in 2003. Success breeds success.

phog

I want both. I want Ireland to win every game and every competition. I'm realistic enough to know that's not possible but I want us to go out and try.

errlloyd

It's just monkeys and backs at this stage tbh, you could add beating New Zealand in as a third option. Getting a grand slam would be nice, but we're not walking around being constantly reminded we've never done that before. I just want the other two to be fixed, so they're done.

irishbucsfan

Yes

sjb25

I want both please

crisco10

Having won a grand slam "recently", i'd take the semi-final please. "An rud is annamh is iontach"

sydthebeat

sjb25 wrote: »

I want both please

question edited to become clearer

rrpc

I'm not sure the poll is correctly phrased:

Coffee or Tea?


Yes









I'll stop being smart and propose an alternative:

Which would you prefer?

Grand Slam
RWC Semi

ThemFifaGoals

Considering you don't have to beat any world class teams to win a grand slam..id have to say a World Cup semi final is a bigger achievement these days

turnikett1

Yes or no what? Poll needs fixing...

I would rather semi final appearance than a grand slam. Slams are nice, in fact theyre great, but proving yourself on the world stage is better. I would much rather have had the grace of being part of the last 4 this year and not win any slams for the next 4 years. Winning the 6N means nothing when you look at the competition, and compare it to the competition on the big stage.

Some people are trying to deny the fact that there is a rift between the two hemispheres but for me personally I think its undeniable that the south dominates rugby union, always has, and for the foreseeable future, most definitely will. I would much rather take a victory over the ABs and consistent wins against the SH sides AWAY, followed by a semi in 2019, any than any wee slam. For me its a no brainer

But yeah, I dont understand why we cant do both. Why cant we get slams AND progress to the semis? Im probably still just a bit bitter but at the moment Im not looking forward to the next 6N, not looking forward to seeing who can win based on giving Italy the biggest hiding I feel like northern rugby has been devalued a good deal after this WC. Southern hemisphere media laughs at us and rightly so

lunarhog

I'd be happy with a 100% record in 2019

captbarnacles

Option 3: I would like a test series win in NZ or South Africa.

sydthebeat

turnikett1 wrote: »

Yes or no what? Poll needs fixing...

the question is in the OP

perhaps a MOD can change the poll title from 'or' to 'over' please

marc96

CZ 453 wrote: »

The poll needs fixed. Yes or No?

A good draw could get you to a semi final and you may not have progressed in terms of how you play. A grand slam would show some progression.

U had a perfect draw to get to the semis,had no threat in the pools and u the only team that got a week break between games and you still couldn't get to the semi?

rrpc

marc96 wrote: »

U had a perfect draw to get to the semis,had no threat on the pools and u the only team that got a week break between games and you still couldn't get to the semi?

R u the only person to c this?

marc96

rrpc wrote: »

R u the only person to c this?

U don't agree??

thebaz

a WC semi, all day long - winning another grand slam , deludes us if we want to move on be the best - maybe , given population, popularity of GAA , my Roy Keane expectation will never happen, but really think Ireland should think bigger than just winning a yearly Northerm European tournament ,

ThisRegard

Our very own Sohpie's Choice.

rrpc

marc96 wrote: »

U don't agree??

A lot of it is wrong.

Ireland were not the only team to get a week's break between games. France were a threat in the pools. Had the same wins as us, almost the same points difference and tries scored etc. Italy always a difficult opponent. We got it no easier than most (apart from the Eng/Wal/Aus pool that is).

It wasn't a perfect draw as it turned out, Argentina had a better one. Hardest game first and the potential to rest players before the quarter final.

ThisRegard

thebaz wrote: »

my Roy Keane expectation will never happen

That's the problem with Ireland, people just give up too easily. FWIW I think you have plenty of time to become a hated idiot.

aimee1

regular silverware in the 6n [title/slam] will maintain and grow interest. Losing a semi final in say Japan 2019 wont do a whole lot

thebaz

ThisRegard wrote: »

T FWIW I think you have plenty of time to become a hated idiot.

whos the

****ing hated dick

Utdfan20titles

How about we just focus on beating Argentina when we play them in the world cup since they've beaten us every time.

Utdfan20titles

ThemFifaGoals wrote: »

Considering you don't have to beat any world class teams to win a grand slam..id have to say a World Cup semi final is a bigger achievement these days

Depending on the draw, you may not have to beat any world class sides to reach a RWC semi final either. Australia have only beaten 6 nations countries and minnows to get where they are at this year's RWC.

ThisRegard

thebaz wrote: »

whos the

****ing hated dick

Keane. I thought it pretty obviously a piss take saying you have plenty of time to be like him. And I never swore.

PTH2009

Love winning six nations as there good occasions but would love in my lifetime to see

A few grand slams /6n titles
A home win vs the all blacks (2013 still haunts me)
An away test win against SA,aus or the Ab
A world cup semi final apperence

Don't think we could win a world cup

I'm 26 in 2016 so hopefully there's time for me yet

Scotland were seconds away from a semi final and they didn't win anything in years

pickarooney

A bit of entertainment would be enough at this stage.

.ak

Daddy or chips?

vienne86

RWC semi for me, but I'm still trying to figure out how to vote!

aimee1

PTH2009 wrote: »

Scotland were seconds away from a semi final and they didn't win anything in years

Barely win the odd game too. They won 3 group games which is more wins then in last two 6n

philstar

we're not going to do anything in next WC in Japan ..in that heat & humidy ...not a chance

Pudsy33

philstar wrote: »

we're not going to do anything in next WC in Japan ..in that heat & humidy ...not a chance

Can I get the lotto number too?

Akrasia

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Semi final closely followed by a slam. People suggesting we disregard the 6 nations is crap. Success in both is not mutually exclusive. Prior to winning the World Cup in 2003, England won 3 of the last 4 championships, including a slam in 2003. Success breeds success.

We also need to do well in the 6 nations to improve/maintain our seeding for the next world cup.

vetinari

Eh, grand slam every time.

Strange poll, winning something is always better imo

Reaching a semi final and losing there would leave me feeling worse.
You think Wales fans will remember their grand slams or semi final appearance more?

matthew8

If we're talking about being knocked out in a semi versus grand slam it's grand slam. If we're talking about semi final with the chance to go further then it's semi.

wp_rathead

.ak wrote: »

Daddy or chips?

Yes :pac: