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Is this a good enough reason to leave a job

  • 18-10-2015 5:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    This is a real first world problem so I do apologise if i sound ungrateful.
    I was living abroad until august and came home and was lucky enough to get a job within a few weeks. It was with a company I had wanted to work with for a while, however the job I got was in a different department than i applied for and the money is really poor. I didn't want to turn it down as I didn't want a gap on my CV. Its the poorest salary I've been on in all my jobs, but its a good area to be in(over all, not my department). On these wages I can barely afford to move to dublin and when I do I'm going to have very little disposable income after. Im confident I can get another job somewhere else (still in my general area - business) but im worried if moving job purely for the money is the wrong move to make?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    No it's an absolutely rational move! Keep working to get yourself to Dublin and keep looking for a new job, you'll get there and your current experience will help you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    apply for other jobs while still in that one. its easier to get another job if you have one already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thats what i was thinking, i have lined up an interview for this week but im worried i will regret leaving where I am which i feel is more secure. Though I like both areas. The company I am with now is worldwide where as the new place is ireland specific. I guess the recession seeing places close is what has that fear in my head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I can understand why you took this job. You would prefer to be working than on the dole or having a large gap in your cv. The reality is you job is not well paid and you have told us you have to move to Dublin.
    Having lived in worked in Dublin in the past you need to get a wage that allows you to do this. Rent and the general cost of living are higher in Dublin.

    A few years ago I was in your situation in Dublin. I was working for a well known company. I was asked to move departments which I did. Within 12 months I was dealing with a nasty boss, a high work load and poor wages for what I was doing. I realised that after one appraisal that long term I had no future in the company. I was applying for jobs and a few close freinds knew this. I got a job which paid €3k a year more than this job and was delighted the day I handed in my notice.

    Within a few years this so called stable company let a lot of staff go due to the downturn.

    The advice I would give you is to stay working in this company and look for another job. I would not say anything nasty againist your present company/job but just say that your looking to broaden you experience. Mention what the new company offer in regards to training, if they pay for course ect. Let the new company see you have learn x skill in your present job but need to move on to gain more experince in y.

    At this stage of your life try to get as much experience or extra training or courses as possible. With more training and experience your in a better position to get a higher wage. Also you may not want to be in Dublin long term so do this could help open doors for you in a few years time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭castle


    At the old saying goes easier to get a new job was in a current job simple as that


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭CaraMay


    Do you want to ever travel again? If so would it not be a wise move to stay in with this company and use them to travel. 3k or 5k extra is very little per month in your pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Were you not looking for advice on this before? Like did you not go into this company with your eyes wide open from the advice here on this forum re the poor salary, the excessive notice period, and the very poor feedback on the company?

    I'm not trying to get at you about that, I guess I don't understand how you got so much feedback against taking the job, but here you are, perhaps a month after you started there, looking to move jobs?

    Fair enough, we all make mistakes; but you might get very different advice if you posted the full history of before you accepted the job.

    As an aside, I think a cv gap would preferable to having a job on your cv for less than a year. You're going to have to explain why that happened. Moving back from abroad is a valid 'excuse' for a gap in your cv. Moving jobs only a few months in looks an awful lot worse IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Were you not looking for advice on this before? Like did you not go into this company with your eyes wide open from the advice here on this forum re the poor salary, the excessive notice period, and the very poor feedback on the company?

    I'm not trying to get at you about that, I guess I don't understand how you got so much feedback against taking the job, but here you are, perhaps a month after you started there, looking to move jobs?

    Fair enough, we all make mistakes; but you might get very different advice if you posted the full history of before you accepted the job.

    As an aside, I think a cv gap would preferable to having a job on your cv for less than a year. You're going to have to explain why that happened. Moving back from abroad is a valid 'excuse' for a gap in your cv. Moving jobs only a few months in looks an awful lot worse IMO.

    Yes I did post before. However this is not related. I simply couldn't afford to turn down a job. I think that is understandable. Bills have to be paid. Anyway I ended up liking the company. So the bad reviews did not ring through. However a place I applied for when I was unemployed has since approached me for interview and that is where I currently am now, wondering if I should stay or go.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yes I did post before. However this is not related. I simply couldn't afford to turn down a job. I think that is understandable. Bills have to be paid. Anyway I ended up liking the company. So the bad reviews did not ring through. However a place I applied for when I was unemployed has since approached me for interview and that is where I currently am now, wondering if I should stay or go.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    The fact that you took a job which paid so badly that you can't afford your expenses is very relevant to this thread. You have bills that you can't afford to pay, if your outgoings from moving location are greater than your salary.

    Go for the interview first. Until they offer you a job, it's not a decision that you have to make.

    I would be wary of questions in the interview re why you want to leave your current job though. They are going to ask that when they see your employment history. So you'll have to have a damn good answer prepared that reassures them that you won't just up and leave them too, so soon after hiring you. 'For more money' is not an acceptable answer though, so you need to come up with something very positive.

    So really, your question shouldn't be about what makes it ok to leave your current job so soon after joining; it's more how do you explain leaving your job so soon after starting to a prospective employer. Big difference.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Wasn't there a 3-month notice period for the place you're in now? Surely that makes leaving any time soon quite tricky?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    The notice period only applys when you are there 6 months I've been told. Also when asked why I want to leave I obviously would never say I want more money. I told them that I simply wasn't in an area I'm happy with which was a perfectly acceptable reason and they didn't hesitate when I said it.
    Also people move jobs all the time when they aren't in a job very long.
    I'm not crippled with expenses either. I purely don't have a whole lot of disposable income at the end. Not what I would like to have to be able to enjoy myself (no I absolutely don't mean drinking and partying)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Mod note
    Hi OP.
    You only need to post your replies once. As you are posting unregistered each post has to be reviewed and approved before it'll appear.

    Cheers.


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