Composite front door frame fixings

dubguy45

Hello.

I had a new door fitted today and am unhappy with the screw fixings in the frame having been drilled at an angle and clearly visible with no cover strip fitted around the frame to hide the fixings.
I would be grateful if anyone with experience could tell me if its normal to have cover strip to hide the frame fixings on a door that's cost in excess of €3000.

Thanks.

893bet

Picture?

Are you talking about the door straps I am thinking?

dubguy45

Sorry, I don't know the correct title. Its the finishing strip that would cover the fixings used to secure the door frame in place.


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Bonzo Delaney

dubguy45 wrote: »

Sorry, I don't know the correct title. Its the finishing strip that would cover the fixings used to secure the door frameplace.


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Could you take a wider pic getting it hard to figure out what part of the door that is. Is there not supposed to be a clip on cover strip to cover those I know on the cheaper PVC doors the screws are left exposed but on a 3k unit I'd be expecting near perfection

Bonzo Delaney

Can they be seen when the door is closed ?

dubguy45

No, not with the door closed.

Gumbo

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Can they be seen when the door is closed ?

dubguy45 wrote: »

No, not with the door closed.

I personally think that's a disgraceful fitting.

dubguy45

kceire wrote: »

I personally think that's a disgraceful fitting.

That's my opinion also. I gave the installer a chance to address my complaint but he declined, stating that this was a standard fixing method. I take no pleasure in having to go over his head tomorrow to sort this out.

dubguy45

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Could you take a wider pic getting it hard to figure out what part of the door that is. Is there not supposed to be a clip on cover strip to cover those I know on the cheaper PVC doors the screws are left exposed but on a 3k unit I'd be expecting near perfection

This is a better view. Thanks.



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massy086

dubguy45 wrote: »

This is a better view. Thanks.



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Tbh i have seen many a door fitted and yes this is standard fittings for doors. With Windows the glass normally hides the screw fixings but on doors you have no options to do this

dubguy45

I have seen other doors today in mates houses that have a cover trim over the fixings and they did not spend €3700

massy086

dubguy45 wrote: »

I have seen other doors today in mates houses that have a cover trim over the fixings and they did not spend €3700

Well like anything not all doors are the same

Bonzo Delaney

dubguy45 wrote: »

This is a better view. Thanks.



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Yeah a few fitters have tried that on with me on a few jobs where the client organised the windows and doors some don't notice the screws and most do. The correct way on those frames is to drill the PVC frame to take the frame fix screw head then use the metal reinforcement box section to take the frame fixer then cap the PVC hole. All neat and tidy. Also it doesn't pull the PVC frame out of shape. It's just pure laziness not to do this. About 15 min extra work. And on a 3700€ unit it's.... well words fail me with out using coarse language

dubguy45

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Yeah a few fitters have tried that on with me on a few jobs where the client organised the windows and doors some don't notice the screws and most do. The correct way on those frames is to drill the PVC frame to take the frame fix screw head then use the metal reinforcement box section to take the frame fixer then cap the PVC hole. All neat and tidy. Also it doesn't pull the PVC frame out of shape. It's just pure laziness not to do this. About 15 min extra work. And on a 3700€ unit it's.... well words fail me with out using coarse language

If the screws were in the centre and drilled straight I could sort it out myself. They should have known before fitting the frame that they did not have a correct fixing point. Easy to fix if they had any conscience. I seen approx. 20mm each side.

sydthebeat

when i saw the first pic i though you were having a laugh

but then the others, jesus christ.....

why isnt the door strapped??

893bet

sydthebeat wrote: »

when i saw the first pic i though you were having a laugh

but then the others, jesus christ.....

why isnt the door strapped??

I assume to save the hassle of plastering and making good the reveal.

sydthebeat

893bet wrote: »

I assume to save the hassle of plastering and making good the reveal.

I assume a door came out, in order for another to go in.

Bonzo Delaney

sydthebeat wrote: »

I assume a door came out, in order for another to go in.

I'd be fairly sure the original door frame was cut in half pulled out. New unit about 10 mm smaller than the ope wedged in position Riddled with screws and exp foam. And cover slips siliconed on the outside to cover the gaps.
Instead of taking down the reveals on the inside. New frame made to sit behind the outside reveals strapped or secret fixed. Then the inside reveals re plastered. Still easily done in a day.

dubguy45

Thanks all for the comments and supports. I was working up North Monday and Tuesday but made the required phone calls Monday Morning and by Monday evening the issue was resolved by same installer. Why it was not done on Saturday I have no idea.


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