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The Return Of Vatileaks!

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  • 13-10-2015 2:06pm
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    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.thejournal.ie/vatileaks-return-2385474-Oct2015/
    HE LEAK OF a private letter from rebellious cardinals to Pope Francis has revived a cloak-and-dagger atmosphere at the Vatican, with the spectre of “Vatileaks” and a butler’s betrayal rearing its ugly head.

    The letter, delivered by Australian Cardinal George Pell, was allegedly signed by 13 conservative cardinals who accused the pontiff of favouring liberals in a battle over the Church’s approach to gays and to divorced believers.

    You mean he's being nice and accepting? :eek::eek:
    In 2012, Pope Benedict XVI’s butler engineered a series of leaks that embarrassed the Vatican, revealing as they did fierce infighting in the highest echelons of the Church and allegations of serious fraud in the running of the city.
    The mystery surrounding the latest leak deepened after four of the cardinals said to have signed the letter denied having done so. Pell admitted he had signed but said there were mistakes in the version published by Magister and that the list of signatures was incorrect.

    So some admitting they had signed it and some not, seems they can't get their story straight.

    Someone's going to be thrown under the bus for this again and unlike the recent sex abuse case where the person being charged died I'm sure they'll just rail another butler or something


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cabaal wrote: »


    You mean he's being nice and accepting? :eek::eek:

    Das Ist Verboten!!!!

    "The mystery surrounding the latest leak deepened after four of the cardinals said to have signed the letter denied having done so. Pell admitted he had signed but said there were mistakes in the version published by Magister and that the list of signatures was incorrect. "

    Lies, damned lies and Jesuitical evasions there, more than likely.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Nodin wrote: »
    Pell [...]
    Whatever else one might think about the Vatican and all its works, there are some splendidly sophistic wordsmiths working for it and Pell is one of the most gifted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Cabaal wrote: »

    Someone's going to be thrown under the bus for this again and unlike the recent sex abuse case where the person being charged died I'm sure they'll just rail another butler or something

    Unfortunate choice of words. Everyone knows no priests go in for that sort of thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Or it could be a damage limitation exercise, following Benny's meeting with Kim Davis when he congratulated her on her behaviour. That went down badly in the press.

    In this one, he gets to be seen as liberal, progressive and new, without actually saying or doing anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    recedite wrote: »
    Or it could be a damage limitation exercise, following Benny's meeting with Kim Davis when he congratulated her on her behaviour.

    Benny's retired. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,157 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    robindch wrote: »
    Whatever else one might think about the Vatican and all its works, there are some splendidly sophistic wordsmiths working for it and Pell is one of the most gifted.
    Pell has many gifts (and conceivably some of them are benevolent gifts, though I await evidence) but being either a splendid or a sophisticated wordsmith is definitely not one of them. Not even his warmest admirers would claim this for him.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,545 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i know someone who once met the head of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith, soon after benny left the job for the top one.
    she asked him about limbo. it was a fifteen minute answer and she understood nothing of it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Pell has many gifts (and conceivably some of them are benevolent gifts, though I await evidence) but being either a splendid or a sophisticated wordsmith is definitely not one of them.
    I disagree - when he's on-message, he's able to engage in sophistry with the best of them. Obviously, that's a backhanded compliment, but a compliment it remains.

    Mind you, Pell is quite well known for this clanger too:



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