storage and carriage...

Stovepipe

Hi all,
What do you have for storage and carriage? I had a look around my house and shed and I/we have two plastic coolers, two ammo cans, two five-gal drums (kerosene), two ten-litre petrol, two five-litre petrol, an Atlas box (aircraft catering box-aluminium and about the size of a five-gallon drum and lockable), a few water containers for camping. We also have a few small 30-litre backpacks and various sports bags and various (many) plastic boxes. I also have my toolbox and sundry small metal boxes

regards
Stovepipe

my3cents

Fuel - 4 x 10l cans + 2 x5l cans + numerous smaller containers for stove fuel (petrol meths and paraffin).
Water - 10 x 20l cans (previously contained medical alcohol), 3 x collapsible 20l, 4x 220l drums, and numerous other containers
Boxes, 12 x 45l and 57l supposedly indestructible plastic boxes with lids, dedicated just to S&SS, probably another 60 40l plastic boxes but they keep general stuff in including clothes and are part of our flood defense.
Some waterproof toolboxes and emergency boxes.
Rucksacks about 8 of various sizes.
Bug out bags - 3x 60l holdalls
Cars one with roof rack, tow bar and a 600kg trailer.

We have a poor location near the sea in an old cottage to store stuff without damp affecting it so I store huge amounts of gear wrapped in plastic inside plastic boxes. Anything paper or cardboard just falls to bits after a winter in a shed and anything steel rusts so unless I box everything up it doesn't last long.

Stovepipe

Given that you wrap stuff in plastic,do you get condensation affecting the contents?

my3cents

Not ever been a problem. I wouldn't put away anything that was damp or wet so don't get condensation. I bought a couple of waterproof Stanley Max tool boxes for woodworking edge tools and that works out really well but still give the tools a spray of WD40 when I put them away. Then I have a couple of american waterproof boxes that are supposed to stop tools going rusty that is impregnated with some american style snake oil, those get used for woodworking planes I rarely use. Despite my skepticism of the rust proofing claims they work very well but no better than any other waterproof box.

I also got an electrical goods shop to save me all the silica gel bags but hardly ever use them still a handy back up. You can reuse them time and time again, I bake them in the oven for 30 mins to drive the water back out.

As emergency storage/carriage I bought some brand new building material bulk bags (about a meter square with heavy tape handles used for delivering sand and gravel). In an emergency we could just throw stuff into them and drag them off. One fits nicely in the trailer. I thought they were a bargain someone had given hundreds to a charity shop who was selling them at €7 each.

hexosan

Look up VCI rust inhibitors they form a microscopic protective layer on metal objects blocking oxygen and moisture.
You can use them in gun safes to protect the metal finish on firearms as well

my3cents

Those would be the boxes I have with the built in rust inhibitor Zerust. I really don't trust it that much, how long does it last and how long were the boxes in store before I bought them. They were cheap because they were so expensive no one bought them so they sat on a shelf for goodness know how long until reduced in a sale.

Definitely a back up plan to use VCI but definitely not the whole plan.

hexosan

Standard VCI pack for a gun safe covers 1m3 and last 1-2 years depending on how often the safe is open. If you want to cover a larger area you use the larger pack or multiple smaller packs.

hexosan

They cost about €8 a pack so not overly expensive

my3cents

hexosan wrote: »

Standard VCI pack for a gun safe covers 1m3 and last 1-2 years depending on how often the safe is open. If you want to cover a larger area you use the larger pack or multiple smaller packs.

The problem I can see is that its not a product that is in high demand so you'd want to buy it from a source with a high turnover as I've seen Zerust products sit on the shelf for years.

If money was not issue I like the idea of Boeshield T-9 seems to be sold on this side of the pond mainly for cyclists.

ShadowFox

My preps and tools were dumped into cardboard boxes or 100l tubs which finally annoyed me enough at the beginning of the summer so I went out and got smaller 10l and 35l tubs and have been sorting things out bit by bit since . The 100l tubs now have blankets and spare winter clothes in vacuum storage bags. The amount of extra space that I have now to fill. Need to pick up some of the 25l barrels to put rock salt in .

Stovepipe

This is an Atlas box; lockable and made of aluminium and tough as boots. Used for airline catering and available on ebay and from companies like aliexpress or surplus from airlines and catering companies.

hexosan

Anyone try the 145L black storage tubs with wheels in aldi. €24.99

Stovepipe

Are they the ones with the split top cover, with a corrugated pattern of interlocking teeth?

hexosan

http://www.offerscheck.org/145-litre-storage-trunk/aldi/2015/kw-34/261145

Stovepipe

they look good! They'd fit into a van or a 4x4...

my3cents

Stovepipe wrote: »

they look good! They'd fit into a van or a 4x4...

Be very careful with any plastic storage boxes you put in a van because I've found its easy to destroy most of them if they slide around. Only expensive professional plastic boxes seem to be strong enough for that job. These are particularly good http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rough-Tote-Litre-Blue-372827/dp/B007PS3A98 and Woodies have them and a slightly smaller version (bit cheaper iirc). They really will take a beating as the plastic is slightly flexible and not brittle like some boxes.

my3cents

Bit of a storm last night not much but just enough to dump a few fish boxes on the beach today, which of course reminds me I also have an embarrassing number of fish boxes I use for storage. I don't really use them for survival stuff.

Carried one nice clean fish box home with me and might pop back and take a look at the others before its dark.

tc556guy

I moved last year so I don't have the depth of stored stuff I used to have. Some fuel, not enough. Some MREs, not enough. The ex wife got a good chunk of what I had previously laid aside.
I'm re-building as time and money goes on.
On the plus side my new house has a garden spot and I got it wired up for a back up generator since I moved in. It has a wood stove, something my old place lacked.