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Bull immobiliser

  • 12-10-2015 8:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭


    I find it amazing that what all of the technical advancement in the world today, there's nothing on the market to immobilise a bull. Something that could be activated by a remote that renders the animal unable to charge and kill a person. A collar that could deliver a targeted electric shock or something to snare up his legs. Could save quite a few lives, but not all obviously. There must be a massive market for something like this?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    They'd be illegal under the welfare act


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    ganmo wrote: »
    They'd be illegal under the welfare act

    Would you consider immobilising a animal about to kill someone as "Unnecessary suffering"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Don't cows kill/injure more people than bulls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,182 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    There was a guy on a TV programme before with something like a stun-gun that he was trying to develop. Maybe it was Dragons Den.
    The downside of something like this is, guys would hold on to dangerous animals thinking they would have a backup if things went wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Would you consider immobilising a animal about to kill someone as "Unnecessary suffering"?

    Bulls only kill or injure when people take risks with them..."he is a grand quiet fella,sure i can walk out and scratch him in the field"..how many times have we all heard that?..how many farms have a dedacated bull pen/shed where you dont need to access the shed while the bull is in it?

    I was laughted at by a fella for having one and sneered at that i was afraid of a quiet bull...same fella had his hip and 3 ribs broken by his bull 6 months later


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Kovu wrote: »
    Don't cows kill/injure more people than bulls?

    A cow is dangerous around calving, and for a few weeks after. Bulls can kill you at any time. If you're out herding throughout the year, there's no threat that a cow is going to go for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Bulls only kill or injure when people take risks with them..."he is a grand quiet fella,sure i can walk out and scratch him in the field"..how many times have we all heard that?..how many farms have a dedacated bull pen/shed where you dont need to access the shed while the bull is in it?


    Only a clown would walk up to a bull and scratch him, but event he most careful lad could get caught out in a field. Suckler farmers can't have a bull locked up in a pen all year. When you have to move a herd of them there's always a risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Only a clown would walk up to a bull and scratch him, but event he most careful lad could get caught out in a field. Suckler farmers can't have a bull locked up in a pen all year. When you have to move a herd of them there's always a risk.

    Alot of clowns around,pen was used here at housing as it was a spring calving suckler herd, herding should be done from a jeep or simular if you going into a big field containing a bull unless there is an electric fence to exit under or simular


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    Alot of clowns around,pen was used here at housing as it was a spring calving suckler herd, herding should be done from a jeep or simular if you going into a big field containing a bull unless there is an electric fence to exit under or simular

    Herding cattle in a jeep will do loads for keeping them quiet. If your afraid of everything in farming that you should be you wouldn't be at it. There has to be a happy balance and respect not fear. An electric fence will only slow a bull if he's charging you and by the time you've dropped and rolled under or tried it as a hurdle you'll find most Bulls will be on top of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Alot of clowns around,pen was used here at housing as it was a spring calving suckler herd, herding should be done from a jeep or simular if you going into a big field containing a bull unless there is an electric fence to exit under or simular
    Not very practical to be bringing in dairy cows morning and evening with a jeep. A horse would be the ideal job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Miname wrote: »
    Herding cattle in a jeep will do loads for keeping them quiet. If your afraid of everything in farming that you should be you wouldn't be at it. There has to be a happy balance and respect not fear. An electric fence will only slow a bull if he's charging you and by the time you've dropped and rolled under or tried it as a hurdle you'll find most Bulls will be on top of you.

    I use a quad and find it the best..whos afraid of everyting?...surly taking precautions not to be attacked by a bull his hardly meaning your afraid of everyting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Would you consider immobilising a animal about to kill someone as "Unnecessary suffering"?

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2014/si/108/made/en/print


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Another issue would be that what is designed for animals would end up being used on humans, some day, somewhere, somehow.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    greysides wrote: »
    Another issue would be that what is designed for animals would end up being used on humans, some day, somewhere, somehow.

    Too true. I seen a young one the other day with a ring in her nose :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Too true. I seen a young one the other day with a ring in her nose :-)

    Did you see any young fellas wearing a chin ball harness :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Did you see any young fellas wearing a chin ball harness :D

    If I do I'll make sure not to bend down near him :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,182 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Muckit wrote: »
    Now that's what you call nervous laughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Midfield9


    Now that's what you call nervous laughter.

    Did ye read the description of the video underneath. Nearly as funny as the video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Midfield9 wrote: »
    Did ye read the description of the video underneath. Nearly as funny as the video
    And the clowns commenting on about all the calves stolen from their mothers every year.


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