Parking and stopping on double-yellow lines.

shawboss

Simple question.

If you stop and park on double-yellow lines, and you're in the car. Should the warden ask you to move the car before givin you a ticket

nuac

He is entitled to give you a ticket, altho many wardens might let you off if you move off straight away

GerardKeating

shawboss wrote: »

simple qustion ,

if you stop and park on dubble yellow lines, and your in the car . should the wardon ask you to move the car before givin you a ticket

Warden could write the ticket, and post it to you the next day, if s/he felt so inclined.

MarkAnthony

Did you have the hazards on?

2forjoy

He should ask you to move and could ask you to move , but would depend entirely on the warden -

unattendedbag

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Did you have the hazards on?

You mean "ah shur I'm just poppin in to the shop" lights.

Legally it would come down to the interpretation of whether or not you were parked. I would imagine district court judges would have different opinions on whether or not someone sitting in the car for s few minutes would be parking or not.

K.Flyer

unattendedbag wrote: »

You mean "ah shur I'm just poppin in to the shop" lights.

Legally it would come down to the interpretation of whether or not you were parked. I would imagine district court judges would have different opinions on whether or not someone sitting in the car for s few minutes would be parking or not.

In this case, the o.p. says he had "stopped and parked"

shawboss wrote: »

simple qustion ,

if you stop and park on dubble yellow lines, and your in the car . should the wardon ask you to move the car before givin you a ticket

In the real world I have found most wardens will give you the chance to move it straight away, before writing a ticket.
I would think if a car is stopped and is out of the traffic flow, it would be just the same as waiting or parking, irrespective if there is someone in it or not. You are most likely still causing an obstruction.

shawboss

there was no obstruction , more to the point its weather or not he should ask you to move if you are in the car before giving you a ticket

Mr.Carter

shawboss wrote: »

Simple question.

If you stop and park on double-yellow lines, and you're in the car. Should the warden ask you to move the car before givin you a ticket

In a prefect world...isn't their job to keep traffic flowing and issue fines where appropriate, their job shouldn't be based on fines issued....but you may find they have a quota to reach.

K.Flyer

shawboss wrote: »

there was no obstruction , more to the point its weather or not he should ask you to move if you are in the car before giving you a ticket

Strictly speaking they don't have to say anything, if you are parked, stopped or waiting illegally on a double yellow you could get a ticket.
But most of them will ask / tell you to move.

MarkAnthony

shawboss wrote: »

there was no obstruction , more to the point its weather or not he should ask you to move if you are in the car before giving you a ticket

That would tip you off.

They should sneak up and jump out at you!

Is it the same here that they only have to touch the car with the ticket. Used to love that guy who'd chase after cars and do a sort of flying leap thing. It was a bit like seeing a winning try!

4ensic15

It depends on the yellow lines. Are they beside a footpath or are they beside a grass verge or a wall. If beside a footpath it is different.

shawboss

its right on a footpath out side a school

MarkAnthony

shawboss wrote: »

its right on a footpath out side a school

AKA just about the stupidest and most dangerous place possible to park. I can see why the hypothetical traffic warden was not impressed.

glued

You cannot park on double yellow lines for any reason. €40 fine. Some wardens will give you a chance to move but they're not required to.

Usually I've found that wardens will give a bit of leeway for tickets being out by ten minutes or so but will nearly always issue on the spot fines for illegally parking in a disabled space/double yellow line/cycle track etc.

delahuntv

shawboss wrote: »

its right on a footpath out side a school

think of it another way.

Kids runs out onto road and gets knocked down by a car because the driver did not see the kid because someone was sitting in their car parked on the double yellow lines outside the school.

Hence you will find that wardens are more strict for a very valid reason outside a school.


Whilst the chances are very slim, the scenario is possible (kids are prone to not looking) - not something a motorist wants to be responsible for.

K.Flyer

4ensic15 wrote: »

It depends on the yellow lines. Are they beside a footpath or are they beside a grass verge or a wall. If beside a footpath it is different.

I would think double yellow lines mean the same thing, no matter where they are.

Claw Hammer

K.Flyer wrote: »

I would think double yellow lines mean the same thing, no matter where they are.

Of what relevance is this statement?

K.Flyer

shawboss wrote: »

Simple question.

If you stop and park on double-yellow lines, and you're in the car. Should the warden ask you to move the car before givin you a ticket

4ensic15 wrote: »

It depends on the yellow lines. Are they beside a footpath or are they beside a grass verge or a wall. If beside a footpath it is different.

K.Flyer wrote: »

I would think double yellow lines mean the same thing, no matter where they are.

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Of what relevance is this statement?

Have you read the thread? Or do you not know the meaning of Double Yellow lines?

Arbiter of Good Taste

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Of what relevance is this statement?

I would think it is the only thing that is relevant to the OP's question

FishOnABike

K.Flyer wrote: »

Have you read the thread? Or do you not know the meaning of Double Yellow lines?

No parking at all, at all.

Victor

4ensic15 wrote: »

It depends on the yellow lines. Are they beside a footpath or are they beside a grass verge or a wall. If beside a footpath it is different.

Oh? how does that work?

ShaShaBear

Ugh, it SICKENS me when people do this. As you leave our house, the straight road into town has three schools on one side, and people will literally park on every inch of double yellow line they can find and sit there for upwards on 20 minutes waiting for kids to come out. There's another spot, on a tight corner RIGHT before a pedestrian crossing that is ON a roundabout and directly outside a housing estate that people love to use for popping into the shops. If a car parks there, it is impossible for people with buggies to use the footpath and you have to take your child out onto the main road into roundabout traffic and hope for the best.

Should be handing them out on the spot with no warning. People would think twice before doing it again if they knew they weren't going to keep getting warnings.

4ensic15

Victor wrote: »

Oh? how does that work?

The nearest yellow line has to be 100mm from the side of the road. If there is a footpath there then the nearest line will not be 100mm from the side of the road.

Qualitymark

What about in a cycling lane?

twowheelsonly

shawboss wrote: »

there was no obstruction , more to the point its weather or not he should ask you to move if you are in the car before giving you a ticket

No, he has no obligation to ask you to move and actually has no powers to demand that you move. He can ticket you and ask the Gardai to get you to move but if you're sitting in the car most will ask you before ticketing which is actually fair enough. If he sees you again tomorrow or consistently doing it then he may just ticket you instantly, and rightly so IMO.

4ensic15 wrote: »

It depends on the yellow lines. Are they beside a footpath or are they beside a grass verge or a wall. If beside a footpath it is different.

4ensic15 wrote: »

The nearest yellow line has to be 100mm from the side of the road. If there is a footpath there then the nearest line will not be 100mm from the side of the road.

Bull. If I remember correctly it's from the side of the carriageway. If your assumption was correct it would mean that most double yellow lines in any town or city would be for decoration only.

Victor

4ensic15 wrote: »

The nearest yellow line has to be 100mm from the side of the road. If there is a footpath there then the nearest line will not be 100mm from the side of the road.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/181/made/en/print

Single Yellow Line.
14. Traffic sign number RRM 007 shall—

(a) indicate that parking of vehicles is restricted at certain times on that side of the roadway, and
(b) consist of a continuous yellow line approximately 100 millimetres wide extending along the edge of a roadway and situated approximately 300 millimetres from that edge.

Double Yellow Lines
15. Traffic sign number RRM 008 shall—

(a) indicate that parking of vehicles is prohibited at any time on that side of the roadway, and
(b) consist of two parallel continuous yellow lines approximately 100 millimetres apart extending along the edge of a roadway, each line being approximately 100 millimetres wide, and the line nearest the edge of the roadway being situated approximately 300 millimetres from that edge.

Edge of Roadway.
28. Traffic sign number RRM 025 shall—

(a) indicate the line of the edge of a roadway, other than a motorway, and
(b) consist of a broken yellow line along the edge of a roadway, consisting of segments not less than 100 millimetres and not more than 150 millimetres wide, approximately 2 metres long and approximately 2 metres apart.

Note that the term used is "roadway", not "road". It is also "approximately 300mm", not 100mm http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1993/act/14/section/2/enacted/en/html#zza14y1993s2

“road” includes—

(a) any street, lane, footpath, square, court, alley or passage,

(b) any bridge, viaduct, underpass, subway, tunnel, overpass, overbridge, flyover, carriageway (whether single or multiple), pavement or footway,

(c) any weighbridge or other facility for the weighing or inspection of vehicles, toll plaza or other facility for the collection of tolls, service area, emergency telephone, first aid post, culvert, arch, gulley, railing, fence, wall, barrier, guardrail, margin, kerb, lay-by, hard shoulder, island, pedestrian refuge, median, central reserve, channelliser, roundabout, gantry, pole, ramp, bollard, pipe, wire, cable, sign, signal or lighting forming part of the road, and

(d) any other structure or thing forming part of the road and—

(i) necessary for the safety, convenience or amenity of road users or for the construction, maintenance, operation or management of the road or for the protection of the environment, or

(ii) prescribed by the Minister;

“roadway” means that portion of a road which is provided primarily for the use of vehicles;

The boundary between the roadway and the rest of the road is usually a kerb, although it can be a broken (solid on a motorway) yellow line.

C.K Dexter Haven

Single yellow line- no parking at all

Double yellow line- no parking at all at all.

Qualitymark

Am I the only person imagining certain members of this forum crouched in the roadway, measuring the yellow lines' distance from the kerb with their little yellow measury-tapes?