LED Lighting

vinne

Hi there , just wanted to know if any of ye had changed from fluorescent to LED tubes and from Halogen to LED floodlights

Muckit

Have a few led floodlights got. Just to get time to fit them. Halogen filament lamps were a pure nuisance. Always blowing and hard on electricity, alot of heat off them and hard on electricity.

I see changing the flour tubes for leds involves cutting out the starter so not a straight swop. Another job that will be done down the line.

barnaman

Just rewired the yard and used all LED. Same problems with Halogen as Muckit bloody things were always blowing and the 2 I had were on new wiring etc. Took them out and replaced with LED. Not quite as bright maybe but do the job a1 ok imo.

vinne

I was told you could replace the fluorescent with the led tube,. by just changing the starter to an led starter. Came across this web site www.farmlighting.ie they look good , what do ye think ?

larthehar

Well flood lights you are going from 500w to 50w so @ average 5 hrs a day for 100 days/yr assuming €0.16/kWh is a cost of €40 reduced to €4.. that is €36 saving a year.. so it pays for itself in 4 years for a high quality one..
the tubes are a different story, 58w to 24w at the same usage as above has a saving of €2.70/yr... and if the life time is 50k hrs.. Led tubes don't pay in my eyes.. but floodlights do!

kowtow

larthehar wrote:

Well flood lights you are going from 500w to 50w so @ average 5 hrs a day for 100 days/yr assuming €0.16/kWh is a cost of €40 reduced to €4.. that is €36 saving a year.. so it pays for itself in 4 years for a high quality one.. the tubes are a different story, 58w to 24w at the same usage as above has a saving of €2.70/yr... and if the life time is 50k hrs.. Led tubes don't pay in my eyes.. but floodlights do!

There is also the hassle of bulb changing to consider.

I'm about to put in a few Led. . Thought I'd do the inaccessible ones and use some new halogens in the easy spots (no pun intended)

Is 50watt the effective minimum? Would 2 x 30 be better spaced apart given the less intense light?

vinne

The one thing I hate about the fluorescent tubes, if you use them a lot the starter goes and that can cause the tubes to blow. With the LED you will not have that problem.

Muckit

Also another fact that I learnt from an electrician is that the light from fluorescent tubes diminishes over time. So even though the tubes mightn't blow, they are not giving out the same light 10 years or so after they are fitted. They are still possibly using the same power though.

I'm not sure about your calculations iarthar with standard vs. Led tubes.
Starters use a lot of energy so I would have thought that conventional flour lights would use a lot more electricity over led equiv if used for short periods every day. Perhaps l am wrong.

Czhornet

I am was going to change to LED floodlights as well, I was told to use a factor of 10 ie 500w halogen is the same as 50 LED, is this true? I'd love to see a 50w LED working at night to be sure its the same light out put.

larthehar

Muckit wrote: »

Also another fact that I learnt from an electrician is that the light from fluorescent tubes diminishes over time. So even though the tubes mightn't blow, they are not giving out the same light 10 years or so after they are fitted. They are still possibly using the same power though.

I'm not sure about your calculations iarthar with standard vs. Led tubes.
Starters use a lot of energy so I would have thought that conventional flour lights would use a lot more electricity over led equiv if used for short periods every day. Perhaps l am wrong.

Hi Muckit,

Huge amount of variables... I am assuming an electronic ballast in my calculations, the magnetic ballasts use more.. approx 25% from memory? So that would help things..
also is lights being replaced were at end of life or not.. The T8 electronic start fittings are a more cost effective solution IMO.. but again depends on usage, etc..

larthehar

Czhornet wrote: »

I am was going to change to LED floodlights as well, I was told to use a factor of 10 ie 500w halogen is the same as 50 LED, is this true? I'd love to see a 50w LED working at night to be sure its the same light out put.

I have good quality 50w installed and I think they are better than the 500w halogen that was installed in the same area as light is white.. they are guides available for sizing area

vinne

I ordered LED tubes and LED floodlights from farmlighting.ie when I get them I'll report back on the quality of them

barnaman

Vinnie priced some eletrical stuff at 2 local coops today and that website was cheaper and better quality. Going to order a couple 2 gang IS 66 from them; they are cheaper and have switches and power indicators. Neither coop could offer that type. Thanks for link! Wish I had it sooner! Meant to say also used a sodium lamp in the yard as electrican recommendend it for side of yard next to house.

nilhg

We got a 50watt LED floodlight to replace a 500watt halogen that had given up the ghost, quite happy with it, different quality of light from the halogen but you don't be long getting used to it.

Got it from up North on ebay, he seems to be out of stock on 50s at the moment but when they come back in I'd be happy to get a few more.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Led-Floodlight-20-30-50watt-IP65-with-without-PIR-Low-power-Day-White-SALE-/331629425318?var=&hash=item4d36a772a6

Jb1989

Some English couple in Leitrim used to have big adds on donedeal with a shed full of lamps.
I got a few in there's couple years ago

blue5000

Has anyone put LED work lights on a tractor/ loader? I heard that the low wattage loads reduces heating in wiring by a good bit.

vinne

Just a quick one , I got them LED tubes and floodlights today from farmlighting, very happy with the quality of them

Reggie.

blue5000 wrote: »

Has anyone put LED work lights on a tractor/ loader? I heard that the low wattage loads reduces heating in wiring by a good bit.

Didn't do it myself but was thinking of it. A neighbour has it done and only seen then in passing and looked powerful enough

Mad4simmental

Was useing my neighbours tractor a few weeks ago and he has the work lights changed to led and I think they are the job. Really white light like day from them when working in the field.

C0N0R

blue5000 wrote: »

Has anyone put LED work lights on a tractor/ loader? I heard that the low wattage loads reduces heating in wiring by a good bit.

Have driven a few tractors/loader with them and the light is unreal, takes a while to get used to white light but defo a good job.

vinne

Just to let ye know the electrician put up them LED lights , he was very impressed with the quality and the price , we were looking at them there now and there is a great light out of them. I got them here if anyone is interested www.farmlighting.ie

blue5000

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-4INCH-18W-CREE-LED-WORK-LIGHT-BAR-Spot-OFFROAD-4WD-SUV-ATV-CAR-LAMP-12V/281776496918?_trksid=p3693.c100102.m2452&_trkparms=ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140212121249%26meid%3D619188ba73fb40a6b77121620f788796%26pid%3D100102%26

Got a pr of these, have to put them on the back of the tractor next wet day

foxy farmer

247 lighting brand led worklights after 18 months on roof of my Land Rover. Gave up working recently. Electronics destroyed by corrosion due to condensation.

blue5000

foxy farmer wrote: »

247 lighting brand led worklights after 18 months on roof of my Land Rover. Gave up working recently. Electronics destroyed by corrosion due to condensation.

Was just looking online there and a few ppl say to run a bead of silicone around the lenses.

kay 9

Put leds on a track machine and tbh whilst being a brilliant light o find my eyes get tired with them in comparison to the halogen

Bscan86

vinne wrote:

The one thing I hate about the fluorescent tubes, if you use them a lot the starter goes and that can cause the tubes to blow. With the LED you will not have that problem.

Actually when a LED is rated for 50,000 hours this means it'll last this long when turned on and never turned off. Switching LEDs on and off will reduce its lifespan.
Yesterday myself and my brother wired 4 column round roof shed which will house lambing ewes for d auld lad. Existing lighting was of a sub standard so we put up a 5' twin fluorescent corrosion proof fitting per column up on the centre timber and den at 1 end of the shed up high we put a 40w LED floodlight which will b used as a nightlight great light off it.

Also I believe every 2 to 3 years tubes and starters should be changed and the covers cleaned every year before stock goes in.

vinne

Bscan86 wrote: »

Actually when a LED is rated for 50,000 hours this means it'll last this long when turned on and never turned off. Switching LEDs on and off will reduce its lifespan.
Yesterday myself and my brother wired 4 column round roof shed which will house lambing ewes for d auld lad. Existing lighting was of a sub standard so we put up a 5' twin fluorescent corrosion proof fitting per column up on the centre timber and den at 1 end of the shed up high we put a 40w LED floodlight which will b used as a nightlight great light off it.

Also I believe every 2 to 3 years tubes and starters should be changed and the covers cleaned every year before stock goes in.

Surly it would be more economical to put in LED tube's at the start rather than changing fluorescent tubes every couple of years. My electrician told me it does not make any difference to the lifespan of the LED light how many times you switch it on and off

Bscan86

vinne wrote:

Surly it would be more economical to put in LED tube's at the start rather than changing fluorescent tubes every couple of years. My electrician told me it does not make any difference to the lifespan of the LED light how many times you switch it on and off

This was told to me by a sales rep who sells both.
Honestly even though I put up a LED floodlight I often think we're still a ways off getting LEDs perfected. For reliability on a farmyard I think it's very hard to look past fluorescent and metal halides.

vinne

Bscan86 wrote: »

This was told to me by a sales rep who sells both.
Honestly even though I put up a LED floodlight I often think we're still a ways off getting LEDs perfected. For reliability on a farmyard I think it's very hard to look past fluorescent and metal halides.

I think fluorescent , metal halides and halogen are a thing of the past I've changed over to LED and I'm more than happy with the lights

Muckit

Which are the best LED lights, those with the single yellow square in the middle or with the lines of LEDS inside the lense? IYKWIM

Bullocks

Muckit wrote: »

Which are the best LED lights, those with the single yellow square in the middle or with the lines of LEDS inside the lense? IYKWIM

I think it's the one with the small lad in the middle that are better

vinne

Muckit wrote: »

Which are the best LED lights, those with the single yellow square in the middle or with the lines of LEDS inside the lense? IYKWIM

I read up a good bit about LED lighting before I bought mind and they all seem to say ,the ones with the yellow square are by far the best

Bscan86

vinne wrote:

I think fluorescent , metal halides and halogen are a thing of the past I've changed over to LED and I'm more than happy with the lights

Agreed that LEDs are the future but I have found that quite a few LED floodlights I have put up for people hav had to be replaced after 18 months or so. Whereas metal halides are still the most reliable floodlight, you'd be unlucky not to get 5 years out of a bulb from my experience.

Bscan86

Bullocks wrote:

I think it's the one with the small lad in the middle that are better

Yes they seem to endure better than the cluster. Some GU10 LED replacement bulbs in cluster form hav been a disaster

Niall80

As a customer of 247 lighting I have stocked their product for 4/5 years now and never had an issue with the quality and believe it to be the best out there on the market. They will also stand by any warranty issues and supply us with a fully E-marked range.

johndeere3350

Niall80 wrote: »

As a customer of 247 lighting I have stocked their product for 4/5 years now and never had an issue with the quality and believe it to be the best out there on the market. They will also stand by any warranty issues and supply us with a fully E-marked range.

I've seen a whole host of there stuff blown infact I handed a blown one to one of there reps one time and he said they get a good few back and he just replaced it there and then.
Don't get me wrong now I'm not cutting the product.
They have there place on the market that's for sure there a good little cost effective light.
One thing that must really annoying the likes of yourself is they supply to every tom dick and harry in the country.

st1979

I just buy the cheap LEDs from eBay. About 25% of the cost of the ones in my local motor factors. Have the floodlights on tractor 2 yrs now cost about 15 euro each cause I bought 10 at a time. None blown and serious light.

gazahayes

st1979 wrote: »

I just buy the cheap LEDs from eBay. About 25% of the cost of the ones in my local motor factors. Have the floodlights on tractor 2 yrs now cost about 15 euro each cause I bought 10 at a time. None blown and serious light.

Any brand in particular or a link?

rathbeg

vinne wrote: »

Hi there , just wanted to know if any of ye had changed from fluorescent to LED tubes and from Halogen to LED floodlights

yea I replaced a few fluorescent tubes to led tubes and found them a much clearer , brighter light but they were pricie by comparison

Farmwife1

vinne wrote: »

I ordered LED tubes and LED floodlights from farmlighting.ie when I get them I'll report back on the quality of them

Hi Vinnie

How did you get on with those lights - was the quality good?

Thank you

vinne

Farmwife1 wrote: »

Hi Vinnie

How did you get on with those lights - was the quality good?

Thank you

The quality was very good , very happy with them and great light out of them. I also got some led tractor lights and they are definitely the best i have ever come across

Farmwife1

Thanks Vinnie - I spoke with the electrician and he said to get two 30 watt flood lights. Thanks a million - I will let you know how I get on.

Farmwife1

We put up them led lights for farmlighting.ie and they are super . We also got some led trailer lights, beacons and a reversing camera,we were very happy with the price , thanks for the link Vinnie

Farmwife1

We put up them LED lights from farmlighting.ie and they are super . We also got some led trailer lights, beacons and a reversing camera,we were very happy with the price , thanks for the link Vinnie

Hard Knocks

We’re going to put lights in the cattle shed
It’s a 3 bay double with creep/calving pens behind the slats on 1 side
What’s everyone’s thoughts on LED’s
For calving pens, would you have extra lights

emaherx

Hard Knocks wrote: »

We’re going to put lights in the cattle shed
It’s a 3 bay double with creep/calving pens behind the slats on 1 side
What’s everyone’s thoughts on LED’s
For calving pens, would you have extra lights

LEDs are great and now the standard option for most lighting. This thread is five years old and in that time LED's have become the only option from many suppliers.

Hard Knocks

emaherx wrote: »

LEDs are great and now the standard option for most lighting. This thread is five years old and in that time LED's have become the only option from many suppliers.

Was chatting the electrician earlier and he’s had problems with LED lights and we’ll have to source ourselves
Just wondering if there are any to avoid
Also what do people do in calving areas
Is it the same lighting as creep areas?

Gods Gift

Got led battens off screwfix a few years ago and have been replacing old ones with them ever since. Great light and some are left on 24hrs a day during the winter/calving.

emaherx

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Was chatting the electrician earlier and he’s had problems with LED lights and we’ll have to source ourselves
Just wondering if there are any to avoid
Also what do people do in calving areas
Is it the same lighting as creep areas?

It's like everything else these days. There is a lot of cheap electronic components in circulation. LED's are low voltage components and often the integrated PSU's can fail long before the LEDs themselves do. Sticking to known brand names is worth considering and avoid anything that looks too cheap.

Hard Knocks

Got prices for electrics
Lights are 1x23w LED IP65 4K
Would this be bright enough in a calving pen?