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Neighbours shed - alarm for me!

  • 07-10-2015 6:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭


    neighbour has build a solid ground for a very large shed at the end of his garden.
    the shed is far taller than mine, where i spend a lot of quiet time and love it.
    but his shed is massive to me.
    he tells me today he wants to put windows facing my garden for light.
    he is to use it for furniture making.
    not only do the trees around lose their leaves in winter, its so big i am wondering about impact on me selling which i am going to consider and also the noise and intrusiveness on my quiet life now that i am very ill.
    i am alarmed and do not quite know what to do.i really would love some advice.

    he tells me it complies to planning but its not a standard shed.
    he tells me its because his land is higher than mine but does that mean he can build so high its about four/five feet higher than my shed and has no screening whatsoever


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭ted_182


    neighbour has build a solid ground for a very large shed at the end of his garden. the shed is far taller than mine, where i spend a lot of quiet time and love it. but his shed is massive to me. he tells me today he wants to put windows facing my garden for light. he is to use it for furniture making. not only do the trees around lose their leaves in winter, its so big i am wondering about impact on me selling which i am going to consider and also the noise and intrusiveness on my quiet life now that i am very ill. i am alarmed and do not quite know what to do.i really would love some advice.


    Tell him if he puts in skylights he'll get much more light than windows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    If he intends to use it for furniture making that is a commercial use of the shed and he requires planning permission. It also is a change of use from the existing land use or class ie residential to a commercial one. Check if he has made an application for planning permission with your council; he should have a site notice up. Is your neighbour a farmer? With regard size of shed exemptions for ag development that depends on scale of development in relation to existing farm yard foot print. However, you say it for funiture making so even if farmer its not an ag development. Windows overlooking your garden could have negative impact privacy etc but realistically not going to have much effect (from planning law perspective) if was a normal neighbouring shed as degree of overlooking expected in residential areas. Would be a point if this is going to be a commercial development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    i had a good few visitors over the christmas, they saw 'the shed' and commented, THAT a shed? its HUGE! yes, i said, its huge, and no getting away from it from my side. i am very low about all of this, the council have passed it and said its only over the limit a bit, on height, but the ground it stands on is higher than mine.
    but why didnt he dig down to get the foundations level.
    i have no idea where to go now.
    its there, its huge and its ugly and its overbearing and doesnt even resemble a shed from my point of view, its massive.
    i am at a loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    If he's got planning there's nothinge you can do just grin and bear it plus build yourself a bigger shed .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    i guess you are right, i am going to put a screen down the side, i cannot seem to think of any other way, and no plans to build a bigger shed!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Can you ask him if you can paint the side the shed on your side to take the look of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Psychosis


    Do you have any pictures of it? I am interested to see how big it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭worded


    Can you plant trees on your side?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    There is no context here: urban, rural, farming or wha?

    No context on scale, size height, distances from the boundary etc,
    The absence of such data makes this thread just like a discussion in the men's room: That IS big:D

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,841 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Does it already have windows overlooking your garden ? Challange them if they're an add on ... decent planting to shield it from view( may block your light a bit too..
    Check out change of use planning if its going to be used commercially,

    But mainly dont get stressed about it all ... its a shed

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    shed thread.jpgi hope i manage to put shed image up for your thoughts on this.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Jeez, that's massive. Did you get an opportunity to object?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    shed thread.jpgi hope i manage to put shed image up for your thoughts on this.....

    That looks very close to planning exemption limits.
    In Dublin city they measure the total height from the lowest ground level.
    If built alongside the boundary they measure the 3m/4m from the lowest side.

    You need planning for any Windows within 2m of the boundary they are facing also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    i have not put in another objection. the council said it was only a bit over the height, the roof has to go on yet, they will revisit when finished. its a monster. just about everyone who comes to my home says 'jez' and now the leaves off that copper tree have gone the whole thing can be seen with the front doors full view from the patio door.
    i hate it with a vengeance, i feel it very intrusive. really horrible. the land on their side is higher but even still surely to god they could have built down to get the foundations below the ground and then put the shed up, i saw it in their garden the foundations are raised, not ground level so there is a step up into shed. god almighty i hate it and i believe there isnt much i have to plead from my side of the fence, its a shed, but what a shed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    yes, i have that alright i will try find it. but if its over height and i had informed them its for working why did they pass it? they just passed it off as 'a little over the height' and signed.
    but i am a blow in here, so maybe thats it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭treecreeper


    its awful. its actually making me very depressed. i have no idea why a blasted shed could make me feel so awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,841 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Just a couple of things , if it's just a little bit over height to be exempt from planning then its not exempt ( may have misread that bit )...
    The windows overlooking your garden and close to the boundary looks like an issue with planning...
    1 other thing . Did your neighbour have to raise the ground by a lot before he put the foundations in ? If so whats keeping the soil back ? An ordinary wall aint good enough..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    Sorry but I think you're over-reacting. The shed itself isn't big, the difference in ground levels make it seem so. Built on the same building line as your shed. Even if it needs planning it would get it in my opinion. People getting flooded have a reason to be depressed, you don't.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Angry bird wrote: »
    Sorry but I think you're over-reacting. The shed itself isn't big, the difference in ground levels make it seem so. Built on the same building line as your shed. Even if it needs planning it would get it in my opinion. People getting flooded have a reason to be depressed, you don't.

    I don't think the OP is overreacting at all, it looks more like a 2 story dwelling than a garden shed.

    How you think flooding is even remotely relevant to the OPs position is beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭esforum


    It looks big but it doesnt appear to be a major issue, its down the end of the garden shed beside shed. If the neighbours land is higher up then I presume everything including the shed and house is visible.

    How much higher is the neighbours land? Thats a pretty relevent fact here, for all we know the neighbours land may be only a foot below the wall line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Neither of those buildings look like a shed to me.

    The roof of your building is overlooked, not really your garden.
    I'm surprised if the new build is planning exempt, but even if it wasn't, I don't think you have a legitimate reason to object to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,657 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Am I missing something here? I was expecting to see a big three span shed you could park vehicles in. All I'm seeing here is a wooden type shed similar to the OP's except it's higher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    Graham wrote: »
    Angry bird wrote: »
    Sorry but I think you're over-reacting. The shed itself isn't big, the difference in ground levels make it seem so. Built on the same building line as your shed. Even if it needs planning it would get it in my opinion. People getting flooded have a reason to be depressed, you don't.

    I don't think the OP is overreacting at all, it looks more like a 2 story dwelling than a garden shed.

    How you think flooding is even remotely relevant to the OPs position is beyond me.

    The OP quite rightly complained to the enforcement section of the Council and that will continue to its conclusion. I'm merely pointing out the some perspective is needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    In fairness it doesn't look like a big concrete eye sore of a shed,if the neighbours ground is higher than yours it Makes up the difference


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    yes, i have that alright i will try find it. but if its over height and i had informed them its for working why did they pass it? they just passed it off as 'a little over the height' and signed.
    but i am a blow in here, so maybe thats it.
    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Nothing to do with been a blow in or greasy hands.
    Planning Enforcement have strict guidelines and timelines to follow.

    They will follow the works to completion as they are legally oblidged to. Case in point is the satilite dish fiasco before Christmas, planning enforcement followed their rules legally and they still got back lash over it, so we can't have it both ways. We can't be saying relax their procedures for little miss old woman up the road it come down softly on me.

    Next door may not have been able to dig down for foundations as it would have undermined the boundary so they built from their ground level.

    I wouldn't get too worked up about it OP, as I don't think there's much you can do if it's all above board as you could do the same thing next week if you liked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Why don't you put up a shed the exact same for yourself.


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