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My signature was forged

  • 06-10-2015 10:51pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭


    HI. Not sure if this is an issue or if I'm even posting in correct place.So apologies in advance.

    My ex with whom I have a child has admitted signing my name to a school enrollment form for my daughter without my knowledge . I haven't given her consent to sign my name nor have I even seen the form

    I dont want to jeopardise my child's education but it doesn't sit easy my name being signed on my behalf on a form I haven't seen.

    Do I contact the school? Garda ? Where do I stand legally. What worries me now is what else has she potentially signed?

    Thanks for reading any advise appreciated.

    I would possibly of signed the form anyway but I am being advised what school she is going to as a matter of fact even though I am a guardian as per district court


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    How far do you want to take it cause you could go back to court over it. No idea what a judge would do to her but he could go hard on her. Likewise the Gardai could go hard on her.

    What I done with my daughter was went into the school and asked to be sent everything that was being sent to my ex. I offered to cover the postage for the extra hassle but their use to stuff like this nowadays and were happy to have 2 parents interested in the well being of their child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,001 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    At a minimum, you need to tell the school that your signature was forged, and ask them to send you out the paperwork so that you can sign it so that they have a valid version of the documents they want. If somebody is forging your signature and you know this and do nothing about it and let the documents stand, there may be an implication there that you are impliedly authorising them as your agent, and may end up being bound by things they sign in your name. You don't want that.

    As for your Ex, obviously you want to have the best practical relationship with her, so it's hard to know how to advise you on this. I think you have to make it very, very clear, as tactfully as possible, that it is never, ever acceptable for her to sign your name. However inconvenient it may be for her, she is always going to have to get you to sign anything that she needs you to sign. Promise in return to be accessible and co-operative about signing anything that needs to be signed.

    Ask her if there is anything else she has put your name to.

    And consider saying that if she ever signs your name to anything again, or if you learn of other documents that she has already signed your name to that she does not tell you about now, you will go to the guards and make a complaint of forgery. She needs to understand that you take this very, very seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭ken76


    ken wrote: »
    How far do you want to take it cause you could go back to court over it. No idea what a judge would do to her but he could go hard on her. Likewise the Gardai could go hard on her.

    What I done with my daughter was went into the school and asked to be sent everything that was being sent to my ex. I offered to cover the postage for the extra hassle but their use to stuff like this nowadays and were happy to have 2 parents interested in the well being of their child.

    Thanks for the advise the more I think about it the more angry I am. I wouldn't ever consider signing someone else's name.I will contact the school and get the forms resent. I'm not sure what good court would do.Surely she would deny signing and then it would be a stalemate and money wasted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭ken76


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    At a minimum, you need to tell the school that your signature was forged, and ask them to send you out the paperwork so that you can sign it so that they have a valid version of the documents they want. If somebody is forging your signature and you know this and do nothing about it and let the documents stand, there may be an implication there that you are impliedly authorising them as your agent, and may end up being bound by things they sign in your name. You don't want that.

    As for your Ex, obviously you want to have the best practical relationship with her, so it's hard to know how to advise you on this. I think you have to make it very, very clear, as tactfully as possible, that it is never, ever acceptable for her to sign your name. However inconvenient it may be for her, she is always going to have to get you to sign anything that she needs you to sign. Promise in return to be accessible and co-operative about signing anything that needs to be signed.

    Ask her if there is anything else she has put your name to.

    And consider saying that if she ever signs your name to anything again, or if you learn of other documents that she has already signed your name to that she does not tell you about now, you will go to the guards and make a complaint of forgery. She needs to understand that you take this very, very seriously.

    Thanks for this very well put.I find her untrustworthy at the best of times.I will contact the school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    She could just day she signed on your behalf or you refused to sign in effort of playing games ,
    It might not be as clear cut as you think your honestly better off talking her and ask you be kept informed of any paperwork you may need to sign


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,001 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    ken76 wrote: »
    Thanks for the advise the more I think about it the more angry I am. I wouldn't ever consider signing someone else's name.I will contact the school and get the forms resent. I'm not sure what good court would do.Surely she would deny signing and then it would be a stalemate and money wasted.
    You wouldn't be going to the courts with this; you'd be going to the guards. Forgery is a crime. The guards would investigate and might prosecute if (a) she admitted what she had done, or (b) there was other evidence to prove her forgery (e.g. handwriting analysis).

    In the event of a prosecution, it wouldn't be her word against yours, it would be her word against the state's evidence, of which your evidence that you have never signed the form would only be a part.

    Even if there was no prosecution, having been involved in a garda investigation might bring home to your ex the seriousness with which this matter is viewed.

    Of course, it might also make an already poor relationship between the two of you more toxic, so you would need to think carefully about whether, in the long run, this was the best thing for your child. But the option is there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭ken76


    Gatling wrote: »
    She could just day she signed on your behalf or you refused to sign in effort of playing games ,
    It might not be as clear cut as you think your honestly better off talking her and ask you be kept informed of any paperwork you may need to sign

    I wouldn't of minded signing really but even if I didnt want to or if I was unavailable surely she can't sign on my behalf.We were neve married etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    I think it's essential you correct it in the event that you ever end up in court and there's a dispute and/or she signed your name on something else- it would be much better for you to be able to show you have written evidence that she signed your name before, objected, and insisted the school send you the paperwork.

    I would write to them and keep a copy of the letter. It doesn't have to be aggressive at all- the simple fact you are writing saying you did but sign or authorize her to sign, you need to sign the paperwork yourself etc should hopefully be enough to put the school of notice that there's an issue here and to cover themselves they should write to you both separately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    Gatling wrote: »
    She could just day she signed on your behalf or you refused to sign in effort of playing games ,
    It might not be as clear cut as you think your honestly better off talking her and ask you be kept informed of any paperwork you may need to sign

    If someone refuses to sign a form for a child, and that person is a guardian, you are supposed to go to court to dispense with their consent. Obviously schools are much more lax- it's more common in passport applications due to the serious implications, but that the end of the day signing for someone who refuses to sign is not the right way to do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭ken76


    Thank you all.I have rang the school they said there is a signed declaration in my name there I asked for a copy which they are posting.I want to know what I was supposed to declare as true .

    As it's fee paying too I don't want my name signed up for fees


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    Id go the extra step and ask for a clean form for you to sign- just so they know you are not accepting her signing for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    ken76 wrote: »
    Thank you all.I have rang the school they said there is a signed declaration in my name there I asked for a copy which they are posting.I want to know what I was supposed to declare as true .

    As it's fee paying too I don't want my name signed up for fees

    In my opinion this is the biggie here, she forged your signature on a form that could possibly have implicated you financially. That is so wrong.


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