Road works at Arc Bar/Liffey Valley

The_Morrigan

Has anyone any idea what the council are doing on the roundabout and grass verges by the Arc Bar and St Edmunds?

I've lost walking access now because of their works and have an additional 2km walk from the bus because of them..hoping the inconvenience in bad weather will be worth it!

CreepingDeath

They're upgrading the roundabouts due to the new extensions to Liffey Valley shopping centre (Pennys etc) I believe.

Hopefully it'll improve traffic flow.
Not sure the impact on pedestrians.

The_Morrigan

CreepingDeath wrote: »

They're upgrading the roundabouts due to the new extensions to Liffey Valley shopping centre (Pennys etc) I believe.

Hopefully it'll improve traffic flow.
Not sure the impact on pedestrians.

It's the pedestrian access that needs most work if I'm honest...footpaths just seem to end in random places coming from the hermitage.

alias no.9

They've been doing some work at the Fonthill/coldcut roundabout and the B&Q roundabout too, it all looks like improving pedestrian crossings so hopefully the same at the Arc which is horrifically bad for pedestrians.

lord lucan

Looks like 3 sets of people crossings at the Fonthill roundabout (retail pk), 2 on the Fonthill either side of the roundabout and one on the coldcut side. A disaster area already is going to get an awful lot worse imo.

phasers

When the Gazette reported on it they said the road works were particularly for the improvement of pedestrian access to the centre, which in this country means stick traffic lights everywhere :rolleyes:

They're widening the slip roads at the power city entrance on the fonthill road too, which should help a bit with congestion.

The_Morrigan

phasers wrote: »

When the Gazette reported on it they said the road works were particularly for the improvement of pedestrian access to the centre, which in this country means stick traffic lights everywhere :rolleyes:

They're widening the slip roads at the power city entrance on the fonthill road too, which should help a bit with congestion.

They need some traffic lights. That roundabout at the Arc is lethal for anyone on foot, especially if you are coming from the bus stops on the N4 you are completely blind to traffic coming off Lomans road.

hmmm

The_Morrigan wrote: »

They need some traffic lights. That roundabout at the Arc is lethal for anyone on foot, especially if you are coming from the bus stops on the N4 you are completely blind to traffic coming off Lomans road.

Hopefully pedestrian traffic lights aren't the solution, it will make a dangerous and fast roundabout even more dangerous. If they're putting traffic lights in it should be real traffic lights and not blinky yellow ones that are ignored half the time.

unkel

phasers wrote: »

for the improvement of pedestrian access to the centre

Only a tiny minority of visitors to the Fonthill retail park are pedestrians now. Better pedestrian crossings will do very little to change this. A complete waste of money so. And adding to the already heavily congested exit from the park, particularly around 5PM when most of the office workers leave work.

Who decided to go ahead with this work?

If only there was some way of 'bridging' the roads around there to separate the pedestrians and the traffic...

Dial Hard

unkel wrote:

Only a tiny minority of visitors to the Fonthill retail park are pedestrians now. Better pedestrian crossings will do very little to change this. A complete waste of money so.

But it's coming up to the end of the year and if they don't spend their budget now, they won't get the same amount next year!

Q4 is always silly season for roadworks, but this year seems particularly bad. Driving from Firhouse to the RDS the other week I think I counted 6 different sets.

Dial Hard

Dial Hard wrote: »

But it's coming up to the end of the year and if they don't spend their budget now, they won't get the same amount next year!

Q4 is always silly season for roadworks, but this year seems particularly bad. Driving from Firhouse to the RDS the other week I think I counted 6 different sets.

It's partly that and partly the government getting things going for the election. Look at how good we are, etc.

The_Morrigan

There is a pole for a traffic light visible on the new footpath and all the barriers are stacked on the opposite side now.

Guess there is a pedestrian/traffic light of some description going in by the roundabout.

I wonder will they do anything about the access to Fonthill Road from the bus stop just after the off ramp from the N4 outbound? Most people I see getting off there cut across the grass.

The_Morrigan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wonder will they do anything about the access to Fonthill Road from the bus stop just after the off ramp from the N4 outbound? Most people I see getting off there cut across the grass.

I hope they do. I've had quite a few near misses there and been clipped by wing mirrors.

average_runner

The_Morrigan wrote: »

They need some traffic lights. That roundabout at the Arc is lethal for anyone on foot, especially if you are coming from the bus stops on the N4 you are completely blind to traffic coming off Lomans road.

Put the lights a good bit away from the roundabout though

The_Morrigan

average_runner wrote: »

Put the lights a good bit away from the roundabout though

That won't work, there are three roundabouts in quick succession on that road. Where would pedestrian access be if it's to be a good bit away from the roundabout...Palmerstown?

average_runner

The_Morrigan wrote: »

That won't work, there are three roundabouts in quick succession on that road. Where would pedestrian access be if it's to be a good bit away from the roundabout...Palmerstown?

Well its stupid and dangerous to place them at a roundabout

doolox

A big hold up on the Liffey Valley exit westbound from the N4.

Traffic completely stopped all the way back to m50 exit while other lanes going at normal speed until some muppet pulls out suddenly abandoning his intention of entering the Liffey valley/fonthill rd at the last minute.

Watch out for stopped traffic on this section of the N4.

The_Morrigan

doolox wrote: »

A big hold up on the Liffey Valley exit westbound from the N4.

Traffic completely stopped all the way back to m50 exit while other lanes going at normal speed until some muppet pulls out suddenly abandoning his intention of entering the Liffey valley/fonthill rd at the last minute.

Watch out for stopped traffic on this section of the N4.

It's a bit mental there at the minute as lane restrictions are in place at the roundabout at the Fonthill Retail park & then again at the roundabout on the Fonthill Road/St Lomans Road.The other night they had closed off the exit to Liffey Valley, so all traffic had to go down to the next round about and make their way into the left filter lane. No warnings, no signs and a few near misses.
Hopefully they will finish it next week when the schools are off and the traffic is somewhat less congested.

average_runner

The_Morrigan wrote: »

It's a bit mental there at the minute as lane restrictions are in place at the roundabout at the Fonthill Retail park & then again at the roundabout on the Fonthill Road/St Lomans Road.The other night they had closed off the exit to Liffey Valley, so all traffic had to go down to the next round about and make their way into the left filter lane. No warnings, no signs and a few near misses.
Hopefully they will finish it next week when the schools are off and the traffic is somewhat less congested.

They probably take their own mid term then also

What is the story with the roundabout at the Fonthill retail park? Coming from Ronanstown, there is a bus lane and other lane, the roundabout had two lanes on it and this is now down to one from this direction, meaning any bus intending on going straight now has to go into the right lane. Planners are going backwards!

5500

Roundabout at the car dealers/vue entrance is also down to 1 lane now too. Traffic has been bedlam in the Centre the past few weekends even at the off-peak times so I can only imagine what the run up to Christmas is going to be like

The_Morrigan

I noticed what looks like more traffic/pedestrian lights at the roundabout by the Fonthill Retail park in the last few days. I'm guessing all of this is part of the planning for the upgrade to the entire complex.
Still think they need to extend their remit to give pedestrian access between the N4/Hermitage slip road to those on St Lomans Road, granted if they have lights by the Arc bar and then more lights on the Shancastle/Fonthill road exit on the roundabout it will be sufficient as you can at least cross safely without fear of being creamed by oncoming vehicles.

average_runner

The_Morrigan wrote: »

I noticed what looks like more traffic/pedestrian lights at the roundabout by the Fonthill Retail park in the last few days. I'm guessing all of this is part of the planning for the upgrade to the entire complex.
Still think they need to extend their remit to give pedestrian access between the N4/Hermitage slip road to those on St Lomans Road, granted if they have lights by the Arc bar and then more lights on the Shancastle/Fonthill road exit on the roundabout it will be sufficient as you can at least cross safely without fear of being creamed by oncoming vehicles.

What were wrong with the lights at the school down the road.
Lights at roundabouts are just so dangerous

The_Morrigan

average_runner wrote: »

What were wrong with the lights at the school down the road.
Lights at roundabouts are just so dangerous

It's nowhere near the N4 and you have to cross two roundabouts to get to them.

average_runner

The_Morrigan wrote: »

It's nowhere near the N4 and you have to cross two roundabouts to get to them.

Was talking about the fonthill retail park which u mentioned

average_runner

We now have 8 traffic lights from fonthill cross, up to roundabout and down to liffey valley gym.

Wait for the traffic issues.

phasers

The road is a calamity now! To get from Liffey Valley to the Fonthill retail park now I think you go through 5 sets of lights? Not to mention the roundabouts! It's bizarre.

average_runner

phasers wrote: »

The road is a calamity now! To get from Liffey Valley to the Fonthill retail park now I think you go through 5 sets of lights? Not to mention the roundabouts! It's bizarre.

Depends which way you, 5 is the least amount!!!


Think Fonthill road will now hold the record for amount of lights it. Will make traffic worst in the areas and actually more dangerous.

lord lucan

The_Morrigan wrote: »

I noticed what looks like more traffic/pedestrian lights at the roundabout by the Fonthill Retail park in the last few days. I'm guessing all of this is part of the planning for the upgrade to the entire complex.
Still think they need to extend their remit to give pedestrian access between the N4/Hermitage slip road to those on St Lomans Road, granted if they have lights by the Arc bar and then more lights on the Shancastle/Fonthill road exit on the roundabout it will be sufficient as you can at least cross safely without fear of being creamed by oncoming vehicles.

Looks as though that is being addressed now with addition of a footpath extending from St lomans road onto the fonthill and down to the small roundabout as you head towards the hermitage. There's also pedestrian lights across the on slip to the N4.

munsterbear

The roundabout at the Arc is crazy. Cars coming from Fonthill Road get driving on the roundabout in front of cars trying to get to St. Lomans Rd.

The_Morrigan

lord lucan wrote: »

Looks as though that is being addressed now with addition of a footpath extending from St lomans road onto the fonthill and down to the small roundabout as you head towards the hermitage. There's also pedestrian lights across the on slip to the N4.

You have no idea how happy that construction work made me. The lights only go red when a pedestrian presses the light. I've been using the area as both a driver and a pedestrian and I love it as I'm not likely to be killed just trying to cross the road!

munsterbear

munsterbear wrote: »

The roundabout at the Arc is crazy. Cars coming from Fonthill Road get driving on the roundabout in front of cars trying to get to St. Lomans Rd.

Lavelle has said the engineers are going to sort out the road markings down there. Obviously they've never done roundabouts before. Have you seen the markings over at the B&Q roundabout?

alias no.9

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lavelle has said the engineers are going to sort out the road markings down there. Obviously they've never done roundabouts before. Have you seen the markings over at the B&Q roundabout?

The markings there are fine, straight ahead from the left hand lane towards B&Q entrance roundabout and onto M&S or right hand lane towards lights on coldcut but the idiot class of driver you find around there decides to go right towards coldcut from the left hand lane.

alias no.9

alias no.9 wrote: »

The markings there are fine, straight ahead from the left hand lane towards B&Q entrance roundabout and onto M&S or right hand lane towards lights on coldcut but the idiot class of driver you find around there decides to go right towards coldcut from the left hand lane.

Coming from Coldcut there are two sets of markings on the road. Those from Coldcut and those on the roundabout.

munsterbear

foreign wrote:

Lavelle has said the engineers are going to sort out the road markings down there. Obviously they've never done roundabouts before. Have you seen the markings over at the B&Q roundabout?

So they may change them?

lord lucan

Apologies for the bump of a 2 year old thread,there is yet another set of pedestrian lights now going on the top of Lomans road just off the Liffey valley roundabout. The mind boggles at the location, further down the road at St Edmunds would have made much more sense.

munsterbear

Have to agree, no need to be so close to roundabout. Especially as some cars fly off the roundabout at speed. But do welcome at last a "safe" crossing.

Though wouldn't a walkway up above make more sense... Or zebra crossing. So annoying to see people hit the button and then walk straight across not waiting for lights to change

cherryghost

All those traffic lights metres from the roundabouts are dangerous.