Power steering and abs question

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:08pm #1

Before i start asking the question i don't want any smart comments, Just straight up answers i'm looking for.

Right anyway, I'm being brought to court for having no power steering and abs, Now the psv officer said, My car is dangerous because of no power steering and abs even though the car drove fine with them for months, Had no issues that put my life in risk, Would this get struck out as the car in question is a 1999 bmw, I think abs wasn't mandatory till 2005 but i'm not 100% sure maybe somebody can clarify this for me

koutoubia · 28-09-2015 4:22pm

Sorry,
but who is bringing you to court for having no abs and ps?

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:28pm

koutoubia wrote: »

Sorry,
but who is bringing you to court for having no abs and ps?

A gaurd.. He hates people who drive modified cars, From the smallest of changes he'll try do you

koutoubia · 28-09-2015 4:29pm

Did you remove the abs and ps?

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:30pm

koutoubia wrote: »

Did you remove the abs and ps?

No, It wasn't working when i purchased the car and didn't think anything of it due to being a old car

TherapyBoy · 28-09-2015 4:32pm

How did the guard know your ABS wasn't working?

pippip · 28-09-2015 4:33pm

Is there warning lights on the dash? Did it pass nct in this condition?

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:34pm

TherapyBoy wrote: »

How did the guard know your ABS wasn't working?

When he was seizing the car he drove it and then said to say that car is too dangerous for the road after seeing what the brakes were like.. The gaurd is a right wanker and even some of the gaurds don't like him

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:34pm

pippip wrote: »

Is there warning lights on the dash? Did it pass nct in this condition?

Don't think there was any lights on the dash can't remember, It was nct'd when i purchased it so i can't clarify on that dude.

TherapyBoy · 28-09-2015 4:36pm

Daaryl wrote: »

When he was seizing the car he drove it and then said to say that car is too dangerous for the road after seeing what the brakes were like.. The gaurd is a right wanker and even some of the gaurds don't like him

What reason did he give for seizing the car?

pippip · 28-09-2015 4:37pm

I think it will be a case that if the car came as standard with abs and power steering then they must be working.

CiniO · 28-09-2015 4:42pm

Was the car originally equipped with ABS and power steering?

If so - then it shouldn't really be driven without them.

Normally on cars without ABS there is brake force distribution unit which distributes most braking force to front wheels compared to rear wheels.
In cars which are equipped with ABS, there is no such thing, so normally ABS takes care of this.
If you disable ABS in car which was normally equipped with it, you are very likely to block your rear wheels with much less pressure on pedal then front wheels. This can easiely lead you to side skid, especially if you are braking on a bend.

With powersteering - same thing. Cars which were equipped with it, usually have higher train ratio, so would require much stronger force on steering wheel when power steering is disabled.

It's understandable that they assumed you are driving not-roadworthy vehicle.

I also quite often disable ABS when driving on snow, as it makes it easier for me, but indeed it can be assumed that car is not roadworthy without it.

5W30 · 28-09-2015 4:43pm

I can't see you getting done for removed / non-working power steering if it passed the NCT.

No ABS is a totally different kettle of fish. It depends if it was broken or disabled on purpose. If it broke you can just say you didn't know it was and it's up to the NCT to make sure it is working...

pippip · 28-09-2015 4:46pm

If it did have abs and it wasn't working you should have had a warning light on the dash. The fact you don't may be a sign the previous owner messed with the car to make it look in better condition than it was.

I'd be checking the car all over once you get it back.

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:53pm

pippip wrote: »

If it did have abs and it wasn't working you should have had a warning light on the dash. The fact you don't may be a sign the previous owner messed with the car to make it look in better condition than it was.

I'd be checking the car all over once you get it back.

I can go have a look tomorrow at the car and check if there's a light coming on the dash

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:53pm

TherapyBoy wrote: »

What reason did he give for seizing the car?

Defective Vehicle

5W30 · 28-09-2015 4:55pm

Daaryl wrote: »

Defective Vehicle

Wasn't this the same BMW that was seized for having no head lights and a welded differential?

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:56pm

5W30 wrote: »

Wasn't this the same BMW that was seized for having no head lights and a welded differential?

Nope, Different car :P

5W30 · 28-09-2015 4:58pm

Daaryl wrote: »

Nope, Different car :P

You've made a good choice changing to a diesel A4 so :rolleyes:

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 4:59pm

5W30 wrote: »

You've made a good choice changing to a diesel A4 so :rolleyes:

Yup :pac:

TherapyBoy · 28-09-2015 4:59pm

Daaryl wrote: »

Nope, Different car :P

For some reason I'm on the side of the 'wanker' Guard.

Daaryl · 28-09-2015 5:00pm

TherapyBoy wrote: »

For some reason I'm on the side of the 'wanker' Guard.

If you knew him, You'd be saying the complete opposite

colm_mcm · 28-09-2015 5:05pm

I'd be getting on to the Garda ombudsman as you're clearly being harassed for no reason by gardai

http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?query=Gaurd&forum=&user=579541&date_from=&date_to=

Guy:Incognito · 28-09-2015 6:11pm

Daaryl wrote: »

I can go have a look tomorrow at the car and check if there's a light coming on the dash

Assuming you've actually driven this car I'd like to think you'd have notice a light on the dash the whole time by now.

Henry Ford III · 28-09-2015 6:23pm

Your insurer will spit the dummy when they hear about this I'd say.

JBokeh · 29-09-2015 10:26am

Are you sure it wasn't the brake assistance and not the ABS that wasn't working, he wouldn't have got out of the car giving out about the brakes if the ABS wasn't working, it isn't the sort of thing you miss if you just take a short drive in it. I popped a vac brake hose off by accident leaning on it fixing something else, and when I drove it the car felt like an 80s VW, but it still stopped, just needed huge force put on the pedal, it isn't something i'd be driving around without TBH.

When I had an e36 i'm sure the power steering was belt driven, I had swapped the engine in it and don't remember there being a vac pipe going to the power steering. I'd bet your belt is either off, or you're out of fluid. I've driven cars for ages with broken power steering, but I don't draw attention on myself so nobody notices unless they're watching me parking

Power steering and abs question

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