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Another Hajj stampede

  • 24-09-2015 12:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭


    At the moment at least 453 people killed in a Hajj stampede and at least 719 injured.
    Most years it seems to be an event where people stampede and kill many people.
    All the stories coming out of Saudi Arabia seem to involve people being killed.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Thank you Robert.

    Now over to Stephen at the Sports Desk...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭custard gannet


    Seems to happen every other year at it, which is odd considering that Saudi Arabia is seemingly as wealthy and modernised as anywhere in the West (infrastructurally, if not culturally). Imagine if a few hundred people per year were getting killed at Vatican masses or Papal visits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The quicker the fanatics kill each other...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Is this just part of the pilgramage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Oh well…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Updated now to over 700 killed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    These deaths at or around mecca are all to common sadly.

    History of most recent stampedes below.... from The Independent.
    2006: More than 360 pilgrims are killed in a stampede at the desert plain of Mina, near Mecca, where pilgrims carry out a symbolic stoning of the devil by throwing pebbles against three stone walls. The day before the hajj began, an eight-story building being used as a hostel near the Grand Mosque in Mecca collapsed, killing at least 73 people.


    2004: A crush of pilgrims at Mina kills 244 pilgrims and injures hundreds on the final day of the hajjceremonies.

    2001: A stampede at Mina during the final day of the pilgrimage ceremonies kills 35 hajj pilgrims.

    1998: About 180 pilgrims are trampled to death in panic after several of them fell off an overpass during the final stoning ritual at Mina.

    1997: At least 340 pilgrims are killed in a fire at the tent city of Mina as the blaze was aided by high winds. More than 1,500 were injured.

    1994: Some 270 pilgrims are killed in a stampede during the stoning ritual at Mina.

    1990: The worst hajj-related tragedy claims the lives of 1,426 pilgrims in a stampede in an overcrowded pedestrian tunnel leading to holy sites in Mecca.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Terrible tragedy. I know a few people who are there right now, I hope they are OK.

    It is currently the Muslim feast of Eid AlAdha, a time when the Hajj pilgrimage is typically taken.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    alah must be displeased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Always amazes me that after this they still believe so strongly in their religion - ironic really


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    It seems to be impossible to ensure safety at this pilgrimage. There are just so many people all moving, all very excitable and from hundreds of different cultures speaking scores of different languages. I would imagine that every single language in the world is the native tongue of at least a few of them. It would be next to impossible to have any kind of announcements for them. That and the withering heat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Always amazes me that after this they still believe so strongly in their religion - ironic really

    Maybe if you took the time to broaden your mind you'd actually learn that their religion is practically identical to the other branches.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭custard gannet


    Always amazes me that after this they still believe so strongly in their religion - ironic really

    When that crane accident happened one of the papers quoited some Egyptian nutter who said he wished he had been killed by it in such a holy place :confused: It would remind you of Mrs Doyle going off on that retreat that sounded like it was borderline BDSM (fairly sure there actually is some awful island place like that off the North West somewhere, I remember my granny saying she knew people who went. Bear foot, rocky, windy, bread and water for three days type of thing)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    When that crane accident happened one of the papers quoited some Egyptian nutter who said he wished he had been killed by it in such a holy place :confused: It would remind you of Mrs Doyle going off on that retreat that sounded like it was borderline BDSM (fairly sure there actually is some awful island place like that off the North West somewhere, I remember my granny saying she knew people who went. Bear foot, rocky, windy, bread and water for three days type of thing)
    Lough Derg. Still very popular.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    When that crane accident happened one of the papers quoited some Egyptian nutter who said he wished he had been killed by it in such a holy place :confused: It would remind you of Mrs Doyle going off on that retreat that sounded like it was borderline BDSM (fairly sure there actually is some awful island place like that off the North West somewhere, I remember my granny saying she knew people who went. Bear foot, rocky, windy, bread and water for three days type of thing)


    What do they do with the bear foot?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭custard gannet


    What do they do with the bear foot?

    Oh ho! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I hear the saudis are moving it to lisbon next year, the wifi was f***king dreadful and all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Terrible tragedy. I know a few people who are there right now, I hope they are OK.

    It is currently the Muslim feast of Eid AlAdha, a time when the Hajj pilgrimage is typically taken.

    So Tom, why is it impossible to put crowd control in place?
    Agreed , a terrible tragedy but surely one that can be avoided.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    That place is a mecca for stampedes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Saadyst


    Over 700 people died and people are already cracking jokes about it.

    To point out the obvious hypocrisy, if this happened in a western country we'd all be "RIP" and "thoughts with their loved ones" :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yea, its kind of disgusting behavior and I do hope the mods deal with it like they do other things. The death of innocent people isn't something to be laughed about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    What do they do with the bear foot?

    It's luckier than a rabbit foot, ensuring that a crane doesn't fall on them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Social darwinism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,057 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Jaysus, the Saudis, they couldn't organise a pissup in a..... ah nevermind...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    conorhal wrote: »
    Jaysus, the Saudis, they couldn't organise a pissup in a..... ah nevermind...
    They can organise a shootout in a football stadium though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭hairybelly


    Some utter scumbags in this thread


  • Site Banned Posts: 32 Satan is Real


    I be the infidels were behind this...


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Thread closed as this has just turned into a place to aim disrespectful comments.


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