No more brucellosis testing when selling

Muckit

Some good news!!

I hear that they are doing away with the necessity to blood test over 24mth old heifers/cows/bulls from next Monday!

larrymiller

Muckit wrote: »

Some good news!!

I hear that they are doing away with the necessity to blood test over 24mth old heifers/cows/bulls from next Monday!

Bulls?

Muckit

Yes bulls over 24mths old have to be tested if selling through mart. They wouldn't anymore from Monday.

bogman_bass

I just blooded a bull yesterday.

djmc

Good news for us but bad news for our vets.
It will make selling a lot quicker as you can go when you want without having to wait for blood's
Now if they would only scrap animal rendering charges for fallen animals and bring back reps 4 and a proper hen harrier scheme and up the anc payment I'd be back where I was 10 years ago.☺

djmc

bogman_bass wrote: »

I just blooded a bull yesterday.

Look on the bright side it will be the last time you have to do it hopefully

larrymiller

Muckit wrote: »

Yes bulls over 24mths old have to be tested if selling through mart. They wouldn't anymore from Monday.

Never new bulls had to be done. Glad it's finished had a heifer come back positive this year was locked up until the re test came back negative.

whelan2

Dont know if its a good or a bad thing, brucellosis is a fecker, we had it here years ago. Will there be any testing at all now for it?

Grueller

whelan2 wrote: »

Dont know if its a good or a bad thing, brucellosis is a fecker, we had it here years ago. Will there be any testing at all now for it?

Its a good thing at a €50 call out charge for the vet to do it. It will show up quickly enough in fallen animal testing if it becomes an issue.

whelan2

Grueller wrote: »

Its a good thing at a €50 call out charge for the vet to do it. It will show up quickly enough in fallen animal testing if it becomes an issue.

Yes I agree about saving on the call out fee, just dont want to see the disease back again due to lack of screening

whelan2

Will there still be brucellosis testing on animals that abort and a retest?

tanko

whelan2 wrote: »

Dont know if its a good or a bad thing, brucellosis is a fecker, we had it here years ago. Will there be any testing at all now for it?

I think they're still going to test for it in meat factories. Am I right in saying milk can be tested for it?

whelan2

tanko wrote: »

I think they're still going to test for it in meat factories. Am I right in saying milk can be tested for it?

Ye milk is tested for it, that was part of the relaxation in the rules a few years ago that milking cows were being monitored by the dairies

visatorro

Muckit wrote:

I hear that they are doing away with the necessity to blood test over 24mth old heifers/cows/bulls from next Monday!

is there still random testing during the annual tb test? I don't think it would be any harm

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Will there still be brucellosis testing on animals that abort and a retest?

I imagine there will be a broad spectrum of abortion causing bugs being tested for as routine. Milk will still be tested in the ring test and there will be Department funded random testing of suckler/dairy herds each year to maintain to Brucellosis free status.

We had a blood test a few years ago on sheep for Ovine Brucellosis even though it isn't in the country but a certain number of flocks have to be tested each year.

Just over 35 years ago, we were depopulated with Brucellosis and my parents had contracted it as well. It took 3 years for my father to get rid of it.

Glad to see the back of the fekking thing. I doubted we would ever be free from it!

Muckit

visatorro wrote: »

is there still random testing during the annual tb test? I don't think it would be any harm

Yes. It's just for selling purposes it's being done away with. As whelan said great to have one less expense and open up the mart outlet but not at the expense of a bruc. Outbreak.

Sacrolyte

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

tanko

Muckit wrote: »

Yes. It's just for selling purposes it's being done away with. As whelan said great to have one less expense and open up the mart outlet but not at the expense of a bruc. Outbreak.

So beef herds will still be tested every second year at the herd test as they are now?

jimini0

From Monday??/???
Bloody vet didn't happen to mention that this morning when I wanted two cows blooded. Handy unnecessary 100 for him

jayzee

Can anyone explain why the current low level of milk price was not being factored in to planning by advisors, banks and farmers this time last year when the rush to dairy began in advance of the removal of quota. It wasn't even warned against as a possibility by the farming journos in all their articles pumping the move into milk on a weekly basis. Can anyone tell me if this was predicted anywhere?

mahoney_j

jayzee wrote: »

Can anyone explain why the current low level of milk price was not being factored in to planning by advisors, banks and farmers this time last year when the rush to dairy began in advance of the removal of quota. It wasn't even warned against as a possibility by the farming journos in all their articles pumping the move into milk on a weekly basis. Can anyone tell me if this was predicted anywhere?

Wrong thread ,but what your on about was well flagged and ain't news or unexpected by vast majority of dairy farmers we were told milk prices of 39 cent was unsustainable ,volatility was going to be an issue ,do projections at 28/30 cent average milk price .bit of a wild statement .....

RightTurnClyde

jayzee wrote: »

Can anyone explain why the current low level of milk price was not being factored in to planning by advisors, banks and farmers this time last year when the rush to dairy began in advance of the removal of quota. It wasn't even warned against as a possibility by the farming journos in all their articles pumping the move into milk on a weekly basis. Can anyone tell me if this was predicted anywhere?

Even we were talking about it last year
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056928708&page=87

pbthevet

jimini0 wrote: »

From Monday??/???
Bloody vet didn't happen to mention that this morning when I wanted two cows blooded. Handy unnecessary 100 for him

They never bothered to tell us. I only found out today

pbthevet

I know money is tight these days but my 2 cents on this relaxing of br testing is that it is too soon. Last confirmed reactor on the island was only in 2012. I still think the disease is out there. I personaly would of waited 10 years till after last one found.

3 years is nothing. Easy enough for a case to slip tru the net.

Its only when u think of the speed at which this disease can spread tru a herd, the damage it does and how fast it can spread to other farms that puts it all into perspective. Its also a terrible disease in humans and i know far too many vets and farmers suffering from it.

There will still be random testing and bulk tank milk surveillance. But i still think we should have waited.

I included a map of the positives found in 2011 and 2012. They on the border nearly all of them.

greysides

pbthevet wrote: »

They never bothered to tell us. I only found out today

Ditto, from a client.

While it's a pain for the seller, continuing to blood test animals for sale, possibly increasing the duration it lasted, would continue to test those animals most likely to cause the biggest epidemiological problem (i.e. spread it). However, it's all academic now. Let's hope it is truly gone and not stored in a fridge somewhere................

tanko

Has it been got rid of in Britain?

BENDYBINN

Anyone got an official link for this?

greysides

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/all-island-brucellosis-testing-to-end-on-september-28/

Mad4simmental

greysides wrote: »

Let's hope it is truly gone and not stored in a fridge somewhere................

That's the scary thing isn't it. Total carnage in minutes.

High bike

jayzee wrote: »

Can anyone explain why the current low level of milk price was not being factored in to planning by advisors, banks and farmers this time last year when the rush to dairy began in advance of the removal of quota. It wasn't even warned against as a possibility by the farming journos in all their articles pumping the move into milk on a weekly basis. Can anyone tell me if this was predicted anywhere?

supply and demand it was as obvious as the nose on your face that milk prices would drop with the increased production

huey1975

jimini0 wrote: »

From Monday??/???
Bloody vet didn't happen to mention that this morning when I wanted two cows blooded. Handy unnecessary 100 for him

Now tell the truth, did you really give €100 just to have two bloods taken?

pbthevet

Mad4simmental wrote: »

That's the scary thing isn't it. Total carnage in minutes.

They wont be doing anything about diesel washing for a while

keep going

pbthevet wrote: »

I know money is tight these days but my 2 cents on this relaxing of br testing is that it is too soon. Last confirmed reactor on the island was only in 2012. I still think the disease is out there. I personaly would of waited 10 years till after last one found.

3 years is nothing. Easy enough for a case to slip tru the net.

Its only when u think of the speed at which this disease can spread tru a herd, the damage it does and how fast it can spread to other farms that puts it all into perspective. Its also a terrible disease in humans and i know far too many vets and farmers suffering from it.

There will still be random testing and bulk tank milk surveillance. But i still think we should have waited.

I included a map of the positives found in 2011 and 2012. They on the border nearly all of them.

ah there s no such thing as eradicating a disease its controling it and theres different levels of control.there maybe issues from time to time given we are dealng with nature and admitily farmers but if there is a issue the required measure would be taken by the dept to control it.while todays announcement is very welcome the fact that the dept have finaly got it under contol is more important in the greater scheme of things

jimini0

huey1975 wrote: »

Now tell the truth, did you really give €100 just to have two bloods taken?

Well have not got the bill yet but I'm guessing it would be around that.

tanko

jimini0 wrote: »

Well have not got the bill yet but I'm guessing it would be around that.

Half that would be more like it.

whelan2

jimini0 wrote: »

Well have not got the bill yet but I'm guessing it would be around that.

around 50 euro call out fee and about 3 euro each for the testing around here

Milked out

keep going wrote: »

ah there s no such thing as eradicating a disease its controling it and theres different levels of control.there maybe issues from time to time given we are dealng with nature and admitily farmers but if there is a issue the required measure would be taken by the dept to control it.while todays announcement is very welcome the fact that the dept have finaly got it under contol is more important in the greater scheme of things

They were dealing with it too, we were cleared out 15 years ago with it. Came up in milk test and bloods showed a solitary reactor. Took the whole herd regardless

keep going

Milked out wrote: »

They were dealing with it too, we were cleared out 15 years ago with it. Came up in milk test and bloods showed a solitary reactor. Took the whole herd regardless

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ouch bse ourselves but at least its only 6 weeks out with that com9ared to 6 months with brucellosis

mattP

I think all the excitement is unwarranted as before you know it one of your own will have aborted. And what would you most likely do? Dump the calf and sell on the cow :P Thats how this **** will really spread, one (undocumented) case will keep on spawning more.
Hate to put a dampner on celebrations :P

Buford T. Justice XIX

mattP wrote: »

I think all the excitement is unwarranted as before you know it one of your own will have aborted. And what would you most likely do? Dump the calf and sell on the cow :P Thats how this **** will really spread, one (undocumented) case will keep on spawning more.
Hate to put a dampner on celebrations :P

Look, there is currently no brucellosis in the island we live on.

There is no reservoir of infection that can break out and spread across the country.

Any animals that abort should be blood tested, as normal, and dealt with as appropriate to the findings.

All imported animals will be blood tested, as normal, for a range of diseases including brucellosis and any with it will be returned to their home farm/country.

You may, if you wish, continue blood testing all your animals for sale or purchased but it will do absolutely nothing bar cost you money as there is nothing to find.

You may as well argue for the continuation of F&M restrictions as that has probably a larger chance of returning than brucellosis.

pbthevet

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Look, there is currently no brucellosis in the island we live on.

There is no reservoir of infection that can break out and spread across the country.

Any animals that abort should be blood tested, as normal, and dealt with as appropriate to the findings.

All imported animals will be blood tested, as normal, for a range of diseases including brucellosis and any with it will be returned to their home farm/country.

You may, if you wish, continue blood testing all your animals for sale or purchased but it will do absolutely nothing bar cost you money as there is nothing to find.

You may as well argue for the continuation of F&M restrictions as that has probably a larger chance of returning than brucellosis.

I hope what you say is right but from what i see in the real world im not so sure. 3 years since last reactor confirmed. Thats not a long time.

Right on the border where cattle cross completely undocumented daily due to farmers owning land both sides and very few are bothered "doing the proper movement procedure" Theres also a lot of other "gaps" i wont mention but farmers themselves know what goes on.

I hope its gone, i really do. But i wont be surprised when it returns. Unfortunatly it will have spread a good bit already by then and well be back to square one.

In the south of the island id say its gone. The north tho im not convinced. and then theres the badlands around the border. God knows the correct status of anything there.

Waiting a few more years wouldnt of upset people too much, a lot of farmers i talk to even are a little worried.

We'll see sure. Fingers crossed

pbthevet

mattP wrote: »

I think all the excitement is unwarranted as before you know it one of your own will have aborted. And what would you most likely do? Dump the calf and sell on the cow :P Thats how this **** will really spread, one (undocumented) case will keep on spawning more.
Hate to put a dampner on celebrations :P

Yup. And then the next guy will do the same and constant repeat untill someone finaly sends a foetus to the lab probably worried about neo or salmonella and get a big shock.

then the tears will flow

Wes Palmer Lee

what about testing for export...? Is the blood testing done away with for that too?

pbthevet

Wes Palmer Lee wrote: »

what about testing for export...? Is the blood testing done away with for that too?

No. Thats still there.