Anti Clocking Device ?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/92778/ultrasound-check-to-call-time-on-car-clocking



Anyone ever hear of this ? Seems like a handy tool to have for 2nd hand car buyers !

fancy pigeon

5 to 10% accuracy....?

I'm not so convinced!

Also, what if the car has had a replacement engine?

5W30

I bet most cars in this country would come up as clocked because they haven't been serviced properly :pac:

I believe even a U.K Nissan Leaf was found as clocked on donedeal, the add was removed but the Leaf records every Km and sends it to Nissan Motor Co directly, however if not registered with carwings it won't report the mileage but I think it's pretty handy anti clocking device if you ask me !

Simple things like calling the garage the car was purchased and serviced, it's not really difficult to do.

ironclaw

fancy pigeon wrote: »

5 to 10% accuracy....?

I'm not so convinced!

Also, what if the car has had a replacement engine?

So literally 1 in 10. Imagine selling a till to a shop that was right 1 in 10 times?

I can see the theory being sound enough but I'd imagine the difference between a car that has been ragged and a car that has been driven like a nun will throw that off completely. Add in lack of maintenance and poor products in the internals, and the wear will be uneven again.

Technologies exist to encrypt the ECU and those readings, very strong one's in fact, there is just zero incentive on behalf of manufacturers to do so. In lieu of that, a community and trust led network is the best next thing but in the car game that's nigh impossible to find. I think the larger issue is the value people place on the mileage clock in the first place. A car can have 10,000km and be scrap, versus a 250,000km car which could be mint if maintained.

bazz26

fancy pigeon

I do like the idea myself but 10% accuracy isn't something to be publishing about. Which doesn't surprise me with that utter bum cloth of a magazine

It needs a lot more development and other factors to take in before I can see it as viable

My 2 cents of course

dar83

Have those images in the article been verified or is the entire product potentially a render? :P

Toyotafanboi

dar83 wrote: »

Have those images in the article been verified or is the entire product potentially a render? :P

i agree.

seems like a load of waffle. what is it basing it's information on? how can it tell the miles a car has done from an ultrasound? where are they getting their benchmark from etc.

they have nothing, except a concept that doesn't work.

e.g. i have a cure for the common cold; that works 5-10% of the time.

i do not have a cure for the common cold, i had an idea that did not work.

Maybe that 5-10 % is taking into account poor maintenance ?

colm_mcm

does it mean accuracy to between 5-10%?
that's good to be fair.

auto express is a car comic sponsored by its advertisers so I wouldn't pay it too much heed.

dodzy

colm_mcm wrote: »

does it mean accuracy to between 5-10%?
that's good to be fair.

auto express is a car comic sponsored by its advertisers so I wouldn't pay it too much heed.

Agreed. It's gotta be claiming accuracy between 90-95% or something like that. Badly worded. No way on this planet it would be advertised with a success rate of 1 in 20; 1 in 10 at best.

robtri

http://www.tacho-spion.de/en/der-tacho-spion

manufactures website, AE article is badly written.

the device is accurate to +-10% of mileage.

biko

The tech has been in development for 10 years and is already being used in Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Poland, Austria and as far afield as the US and Malaysia.

Hmm, ok then.

magnavox

Speedreading that article I read the CEO as being Michael Schumacher and was immediately like :eek:

Eric Cartman

biko wrote: »

Hmm, ok then.

it was 100% accurate then they brought it to here where oil changes are optional. we are the 20% swing.