Honeywell Evohome

bombs away

Looking at getting new boiler and heating controls and whilst everyone seems to be going for the Nest or Climote system at the moment, I was looking at getting the evohome installed.

Anyone used this system and how are you finding it. Was installation and setup easy and how are you finding it to use?

rolion

bombs away wrote: »

Looking at getting new boiler and heating controls and whilst everyone seems to be going for the Nest or Climote system at the moment, I was looking at getting the evohome installed.

Anyone used this system and how are you finding it. Was installation and setup easy and how are you finding it to use?

Looked myself few times....and again few 900 times...too expensive.
Is very practical and efficient in special with dual way communication but at over 800 ish for 6 zones...I can't justify it to myself.

peter_dublin

bombs away wrote: »

Looking at getting new boiler and heating controls and whilst everyone seems to be going for the Nest or Climote system at the moment, I was looking at getting the evohome installed.

Anyone used this system and how are you finding it. Was installation and setup easy and how are you finding it to use?

What concerned me about this system is that it calls heat for each radiator but Condensing boilers have a level below which they stop condensing and efficiency falls so while I want to install it also I am unsure as to the benefit bar increased convenience.

irishgrover

yea sorry for jumping on this bandwagon but I'd be really interested in getting 1st had views on this. I've a three story home with 3 heating zones (19 rads), and an Emerson, so installation costs would be very high...but the level of control might give me a reasonable ROI over time...

peter_dublin

irishgrover wrote: »

yea sorry for jumping on this bandwagon but I'd be really interested in getting 1st had views on this. I've a three story home with 3 heating zones (19 rads), and an Emerson, so installation costs would be very high...but the level of control might give me a reasonable ROI over time...

That's getting to my point, if it causes your boilers efficiency to fall then it will directly affect your ROI

Wearb

The savings to be had by turning off unneeded radiators (or DHW) is well out weighed by the loss in boiler efficiency. If on gas, boiler will modulate down (within design limits) to try and keep the boiler in condensing mode.
For oil also, it is better to turn off unneeded rads, than waste the heat trying to keep the boiler in condensing mode, or to prevent cycling.
Not all of the efficiency gained by having a condensing boiler is due to it running in condensing mode.

rolion

Hi,
Found these guys SyxthSense, not sure how good is it so far, i didn't had the time to digest it yet.
Any opinions ?

Home Automation Solutions

SyxthSense offers a complete home automation and energy saving solution using FDX Home Automation platform. The FDX Home Automation platform provides large heating energy savings due to intelligent zoning of the house combined with weather compensations and usage pattern analysis. Typically 20-30% energy savings can be achieved automatically reducing the temperature setpoints in the areas not occupied all day e.g. bedrooms normally only need higher temperatures in the morning or living room in the night time. Typically for every degree in the range 22°C to 17°C that you lower the setpoint, you'll save up to 10% on heating costs. For example reducing setpoints 50% house for 4 degrees during unoccupied time could save up to 20% on energy costs, yet without reducing the comfort of the building! It is all in the intelligent profiling of usage that can be achieved by FDX Home Automation solution.

Heating hot water cylinder takesalso lot of energy and intelligent profiling again saves significant amount of energy. For example, heating up 50 liters of water up from 15 degrees to 55 degrees uses 8.4kW heating energy and maintaing this temperature 24/7 uses significant amounts of energy.

SyxthSense FDX Home Automation can also:-

◾Provide intruder alarm system
◾Control your lighting (e.g. garden and entrance lights)
◾Monitor for rain and control your roof windows automatically
◾Provide smoke alarm re-transmission (automatic alarm emails / text messages)
◾Provide gas leak indication / alarm re-transmission
◾Monitor for water leaks in the critical areas
◾Integrate CCTV monitoring
◾Provide integrated doorbell solution
◾Smart Meter integration and consumption reports

FDX Home Automation is suitable for both underfloor heating based as for radiator based systems.

ctlsleh

did anyone come to a conclusion on this? im also looking at Nest and alternatives. i have 3 zones to manage from the boiler, upstairs, downstairs and hot water. I assume the nest works on the basis of only one temperature, so if i were to install it downstairs then upstairs would be unregulated despite the fact that heat rises and therefore the upstairs could get too hot?

is that logic correct on the basis of the nest and are there alternatives that can be recommended? i defintitely want Wifi and remote control (offsite via app).id be interested in managing more zones, but with about 15 rads, the Evo is too expensive, so therefore looking at about 3 zones to manage.
welcome any suggestions

irishgrover

ctlsleh wrote: »

did anyone come to a conclusion on this? im also looking at Nest and alternatives. i have 3 zones to manage from the boiler, upstairs, downstairs and hot water. I assume the nest works on the basis of only one temperature, so if i were to install it downstairs then upstairs would be unregulated despite the fact that heat rises and therefore the upstairs could get too hot?

is that logic correct on the basis of the nest and are there alternatives that can be recommended? i defintitely want Wifi and remote control (offsite via app).id be interested in managing more zones, but with about 15 rads, the Evo is too expensive, so therefore looking at about 3 zones to manage.
welcome any suggestions

hi, I'm in a similar position...
4 zones in total, 3 heating, one water
20+ rads
Can't afford Honeywell

From my research I think that the option I "would" go for if I had the budget is the Tado. The rationale for this is that it seems to have the best of both worlds. There are smart thermostats for individual zones, but in addition they will soon be adding individual rad valves to their zone solution. So it could be the best of both worlds...
https://www.tado.com/ie/

Chickus

Just got this installed through electric Ireland. Its great. We got new boiler and the evo so got big discounts and grant which they organised for us. It came in , around 2,900 after grant etc and to top it off we got credit on account! Brill service too.

Dtp1979

Chickus wrote: »

Just got this installed through electric Ireland. Its great. We got new boiler and the evo so got big discounts and grant which they organised for us. It came in , around 2,900 after grant etc and to top it off we got credit on account! Brill service too.

3k after grant and credits??
And I bet your system wasnt powerflushed and no mag filter fitted. I wouldn't be singing if I was you

Chickus

2,600 for boiler&evo, 200 for some bonding. 300 for power flush if it was needed but it wasn't as it was recently done with old system. happy with everything so far. It was also seen to by an inspector for the company just so everything was done to standard.

Yes there is a mag filter fitted too.

Its a 3 bed semi. Which factors in price I guess.9 radiators.

roy rodgers

Chickus wrote: »

2,600 for boiler&evo, 200 for some bonding. 300 for power flush if it was needed but it wasn't as it was recently done with old system. happy with everything so far. It was also seen to by an inspector for the company just so everything was done to standard.

Yes there is a mag filter fitted too.

Its a 3 bed semi. Which factors in price I guess.9 radiators.

What boiler was installed

Dtp1979

Chickus wrote: »

2,600 for boiler&evo, 200 for some bonding. 300 for power flush if it was needed but it wasn't as it was recently done with old system. happy with everything so far. It was also seen to by an inspector for the company just so everything was done to standard.

Yes there is a mag filter fitted too.

Its a 3 bed semi. Which factors in price I guess.9 radiators.

300 for a powerflush? Lol
An inspector for the company came out to critique his own colleagues? Lol

So 2600 after grants then with no powerflush?

irishgrover

Dtp1979 wrote: »

300 for a powerflush? Lol
An inspector for the company came out to critique his own colleagues? Lol

So 2600 after grants then with no powerflush?

I see and understand that you're laughing out loud at the ignorance of the poster who is happy with his install. But any opinion on what was wrong with the install/price or any advice for others, or do we make do with just the sneering ?

Dtp1979

300 for a powerflush is too cheap.
An inspector from the same company coming out to inspect the job? I think that speaks for itself.
2700 after grants for an EI install is laughable. I'm pretty sure the boiler was something substandard like a Vokera or ideal logic too.

roy rodgers

Well I couldnt buy a boiler 10 zone evo home and a magna filter for 2900 and make a profit. It just seems ridiculous cheap by about 2k. But maybe it was an administration error!! That's what we are saying.

ctlsleh

Chickus wrote: »

2,600 for boiler&evo, 200 for some bonding. 300 for power flush if it was needed but it wasn't as it was recently done with old system. happy with everything so far. It was also seen to by an inspector for the company just so everything was done to standard.

Yes there is a mag filter fitted too.

Its a 3 bed semi. Which factors in price I guess.9 radiators.

You bought the boiler through ESB also?

Chickus

I didn't set out to antagonise anyone. I am merely stating the job I got done and that I am extremely happy with it and the service I got. There was very questionable work done by previous plumbers(which was extra to make standard) and we felt that by going through this company that there would be plenty of accountability.
The inspector had to come out for the company , its a spot check. Its the way the company do things to make sure everything is up to standard as they contract out the work.
Perhaps it was an administrative error (i count myself v.lucky if this was the case)but the only way to find out is enquire about their prices yourself! !
We organised everything through e.i including boiler which I have had two other professional opinions on before we went ahead.
A Ber inspection has been carried out also for allocation of grant.

Having just checked invoice: total costs without grant &discounts was €4,000. (€800 for SEAI grant) (discount for being an existing customer) etc

hollywoodhoppy

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. How is the Evohome working out for you now?

I have an oil set up and am wondering if it is suitable. Your experiences would be welcomed. Many thanks.