Irish Cycle Show 2016 - Cancelled

07Lapierre

Sorry to hear this show is not going ahead. Kinda surprising considering the popularity of cycling nowadays.


http://www.thebikecomesfirst.com/the-irish-cycling-show-cancelled-for-the-foreseeable-future/

StevieGriff

Not surprised. Didn't hear many positives things from it, the price for exhibitors was crazy considering the footfall.

fat bloke

Aw no. I'm really going to miss scoffing at it and not going to it.

Beasty

How many people turn up to such events and splash out on new gear? I may look but would probably then go and research stuff more before committing. I would imagine many people would have a similar approach and you do wonder if anyone with a stall really makes a return from their investment.

NBar

Would rather go to a bike shop and browse, and with a big bike show on in the UK with everything these shows here are bound to not last

Bambaata

Unfortunately this was pretty poorly attended and as others have said id not go with intention of splashing out. Was good for a browse but nothing there that you wont get at a local store/online as cheap or cheaper

Dave11

Even with the rise in popularity in cycling there isn't the demand for a show every year. I think I'm right in saying that the motorcycle show is every second year cause they've realised they don't have the audience. Maybe Mara Media could look into that.

I did also hear alot of exhibitors commenting on the price of a stand.

Take a year out, review and hopefully we see a return.

kumate_champ07

I never bothered going as it seemed more like a shopping trip than a cycling exhibition where you can view/learn about different disciplines

easygoing39

No loss,sure we can all pop over to the NEC every year to see a proper cycle exhibition.

Dave11

easygoing39 wrote: »

No loss,sure we can all pop over to the NEC every year to see a proper cycle exhibition.

That's right. Sure why have anything here at all. Great attitude.

fat bloke

Dave11 wrote: »

That's right. Sure why have anything here at all. Great attitude.

Reality check - there's no point in having it here if it's crap.

Motorcyclists do the same. They don't go to the poxy, pale-shadow, flea-market motorbike show that we have in the RDS. They take the ferry to the NEC Birmingham where there is a proper international show, with full manufacturer backing, awesome stands and comprehensive displays.

Not just a few aul shops trotting out their bargain bins and bike to work scheme tiagra builds.

If we can do it for ploughing, we can do it for biking. The customers are there, the market is there, the organisation isn't.

ted1

An expensive motorbike is 15k+

an expensive bike is 1.5k+

an motorbike jacket costs 300+
A bike jacket costs 70+

it really doesn't make sense to go the NEC for a bike show.

run_Forrest_run

fat bloke wrote: »

If we can do it for ploughing, we can do it for biking. The customers are there, the market is there, the organisation isn't.

more EU grants needed

fat bloke

ted1 wrote: »

An expensive motorbike is 15k+

an expensive bike is 1.5k+

an motorbike jacket costs 300+
A bike jacket costs 70+

it really doesn't make sense to go the NEC for a bike show.

You're missing the point, and you've clearly never been.

You don't go to a car show to bring home a new car. You go to see what the industry has to offer. You witness and partake and revel in the pomp and ceremony and pizazz of posh manufacturers stalls with pretty people modelling the latest gear, the latest bikes, the newest developments, the new groupsets etc etc etc.

Sit on a new Bianchi, get to try out the latest SRAM wi fli, the myriad of new power meters, grab some autographs of some pro riders.

It's a show.

Dave11

fat bloke wrote: »

Reality check - there's no point in having it here if it's crap.

Motorcyclists do the same. They don't go to the poxy, pale-shadow, flea-market motorbike show that we have in the RDS. They take the ferry to the NEC Birmingham where there is a proper international show, with full manufacturer backing, awesome stands and comprehensive displays.

Not just a few aul shops trotting out their bargain bins and bike to work scheme tiagra builds.

If we can do it for ploughing, we can do it for biking. The customers are there, the market is there, the organisation isn't.

It has to start somewhere no? Do you think the shows in the NEC were as good as they are from year one? Of course not! I see and take your point regarding rolling out the bargain bin but that only applied to the odd few stands. Unfortunately the big manufacturers will always point at the UK shows and ask why bother going to Ireland which makes it almost impossible to an equivalent show.

I for one hope we see it return. Maybe they should combine with the motorcycle show or have an outdoors show as well like they do in London.

fat bloke

Dave11 wrote: »

It has to start somewhere no?.

Yeah, you're right there.
We did make a start though. But after attending it a couple of years in a row , it wasn't any good, it didn't get any better, and then I and many others voted with their feet, stayed away, and now it's canceled.

It's more difficult now to start it again and entice new customers, not to mind changing the opinions of past and disappointed attendees

ted1

fat bloke wrote: »

You're missing the point, and you've clearly never been.

You don't go to a car show to bring home a new car. You go to see what the industry has to offer. You witness and partake and revel in the pomp and ceremony and pizazz of posh manufacturers stalls with pretty people modelling the latest gear, the latest bikes, the newest developments, the new groupsets etc etc etc.

Sit on a new Bianchi, get to try out the latest SRAM wi fli, the myriad of new power meters, grab some autographs of some pro riders.

It's a show.

But by the time people go to the show in the NEC. They'll have spent about 400 euro. Which if they are thinking about upgrading a group set or wheels is the difference between mid range and hi range.
Where as with a motor bike show that 400 wouldn't go far towards upgrading parts.
Many people go to shows to see new products etc, but there's no pony going to the show if it costs them the price of the new product.

Don't Chute!

fat bloke wrote: »

Reality check - there's no point in having it here if it's crap.

Motorcyclists do the same. They don't go to the poxy, pale-shadow, flea-market motorbike show that we have in the RDS. They take the ferry to the NEC Birmingham where there is a proper international show, with full manufacturer backing, awesome stands and comprehensive displays.

Not just a few aul shops trotting out their bargain bins and bike to work scheme tiagra builds.

If we can do it for ploughing, we can do it for biking. The customers are there, the market is there, the organisation isn't.

No doubt you will be putting your name forward to help organise the next one then?

Beasty

ted1 wrote: »

An expensive motorbike is 15k+

an expensive bike is 1.5k+

an motorbike jacket costs 300+
A bike jacket costs 70+

it really doesn't make sense to go the NEC for a bike show.

I can assure you it's possible to get bikes at €15k+ and cycling jackets at €300+;)

However I agree on one point - I have never felt the need to throw money away visiting a go to a Cycle Show to splash out that sort of money ....:pac:

cunavalos

Would the possibility of incorporating the cycle show into an event like the GreatDublinBikeRide be a possibility. I know there was a small expo in Smithfield but if the base was moved to somewhere like the RDS (similar to the Dublin City Marathon Expo) you could provide more of an attraction to people to come and visit when they have to register. Similarly with some entertainment people may hang around a bit more afterwards and give family something to do while they are waiting for loved ones to finish on the sunday.

Beasty

Bottom line, quite literally - they need to make some money out of it otherwise no-one will step forward to organise it.

Businesses will not pay for stands if they cannot themselves make some money out of it.

How many people are going to splash out on a spur of the moment purchase simply because something is there in front of them, when they know they can probably get it cheaper and within a few days by waiting until they get home and then ordering it online from Wiggle or CRC.

I really do not believe the market is large enough in Ireland to make something like this pay.

easygoing39

There is no way it would cost €400 to attend the NEC,olearyair fly there for cheap.

fat bloke

black and amber wrote: »

No doubt you will be putting your name forward to help organise the next one then?

Well, actually I'm mad busy the next few years cos the last film I went to see was crap so of course the only reasonable thing for me to do as a customer was to write, direct and produce the sequel. Plus my meal wasn't great last Friday in a restaurant in town, and I don't know where I'm going to fit in the extra evening shifts helping to turn the place around.


So no, I'm not going to organise next years commercial Irish cycle show. Why on earth or in heaven's name do you think I should feel obliged to do that at all, at all, or at all?! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

check_six

I went to the Cycle Shows a few years ago. I tracked around one of the stalls that was done out just like a shop with all the hooks and stands and bits and whatnot. I had a look through the merchandise and made a few selections. Then I was told that they were just displaying the goods and not selling anything. Bonkers!

After this confusing start we treated the rest of the stands with an observers curiosity rather than as someone looking to buy something.

Don't Chute!

fat bloke wrote: »

Well, actually I'm mad busy the next few years cos the last film I went to see was crap so of course the only reasonable thing for me to do as a customer was to write, direct and produce the sequel. Plus my meal wasn't great last Friday in a restaurant in town, and I don't know where I'm going to fit in the extra evening shifts helping to turn the place around.


So no, I'm not going to organise next years commercial Irish cycle show. Why on earth or in heaven's name do you think I should feel obliged to do that at all, at all, or at all?! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

But you see the problem with people like you is it doesn't matter how good it was you would still just whinge and moan about it.

fat bloke

black and amber wrote: »

But you see the problem with people like you is it doesn't matter how good it was you would still just whinge and moan about it.

It's over between us.

sconhome

Without brands and retailers paying money to bring stands to the show or organisers charging entry fees it is very hard for these shows to make money or break even at all.

Brands and retailers won't pay unless they have a chance to make money or at least break even being at an expo.

If people want to attend for free and not buy anything well it is a natural course of action that the thing won't be continuing at least in this format. It could be the best expo in the world but if people aren't buying it's not going to work out.

2 Wheels Good

I don't think we as a people have ever got the hang of shows like this, other than larger events like the ploughing possibly.

I've been to shows in London from cars to bikes and a few others in between and have always take them as a day out to browse, see what's new, browse the exotica that I'll never be able to afford, get ideas for future purchases and maybe pick up a small bargain.

I was at Excel in London last february for the Bike/Tri/Outdoor show and found it a great day out. Got some cheap new clothes, sampled and bought some new gels, checked out the new gear and spent an hour listening to Greg LeMond.

The problem here is a combination of customer expectation and the need for the big brands to buy in and turn up.
An early season show with a balance of Exotica and brands selling at a discount for the day, some shows, BMX or the like and a forum of some of our top cyclists would make it a good day out. Throw in a few stands selling entries for the ROK and the like and you've your summer sorted.

RainyDay

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

I never bothered going as it seemed more like a shopping trip than a cycling exhibition where you can view/learn about different disciplines

Isn't this always the case? I got freebie tickets to the Ideal Homes exhibition a few years back, and was amazed at the idea that anyone would have paid in to access a big pile of shops, mostly selling stuff that wouldn't sell on the high st.

ted1

RainyDay wrote: »

Isn't this always the case? I got freebie tickets to the Ideal Homes exhibition a few years back, and was amazed at the idea that anyone would have paid in to access a big pile of shops, mostly selling stuff that wouldn't sell on the high st.

No one pays. The tickets that you get for free have a price, because if people think that they are get a bargain they won't let the tickets go to waste.

whacker00

cunavalos wrote: »

Would the possibility of incorporating the cycle show into an event like the GreatDublinBikeRide be a possibility. I know there was a small expo in Smithfield but if the base was moved to somewhere like the RDS (similar to the Dublin City Marathon Expo) you could provide more of an attraction to people to come and visit when they have to register. Similarly with some entertainment people may hang around a bit more afterwards and give family something to do while they are waiting for loved ones to finish on the sunday.

When I heard the word "expo" on the details about the Dublin cycle I thought it would be something exactly like you explain . Especially as they were getting everyone to sign on the day before (3000 footfall guaranteed) . This would have a ready audience and Smithfield would be a perfect spot for a couple of big top tents with various exhibition etc. It would equally get a great buzz going for the cycling event...... Maybe the Dublin event will expand into something like that

RainyDay

ted1 wrote: »

No one pays. The tickets that you get for free have a price, because if people think that they are get a bargain they won't let the tickets go to waste.

There was definitely people paying in at the door - no shortage of them.