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I have VF FTTC but want FTTH can I have both?

  • 18-09-2015 2:37pm
    #1
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭


    All this FTTH has me stumped. I was under the impression that if I was able to get FTTH I would have a brand new connection ie fibre only and then if I needed a phone I could use VOIP.

    And as I have FTTC with copper I could keep that as well!!

    Am I right or am I right??


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  • #2
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    No reason why not, one doesnt prevent the other.


  • #3
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    You are right, but the answer is a little more complicated.

    If you order FTTH, then you will get a brand new Fibre cable running into your home, in addition to your existing copper telephone line.

    There are actually two separate FTTH products being sold:

    1) Standalone, where you get broadband only over the FTTH cable. You could then opt to buy phone service using VoIP from another third party company or just use Skype, etc.

    2) A FTTH line + a separate telephone line. The FTTH line is again probably broadband only, you can then make calls on the standard copper telephone line.

    If you went with option 2, then yes, you could probably also keep your FTTC connection and use that in parallel with the FTTH connection.

    It is certainly technically possible, but I'm not sure why anyone would actually want to do that?!


  • #4
    Donne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Donne


    I was looking at the eircom/eir broadband page and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a FTTH option.

    How could I go about ordering this plus what sort of money are would it cost?

    Thanks.


  • #5
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,564 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Donne wrote: »
    I was looking at the eircom/eir broadband page and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a FTTH option.

    How could I go about ordering this plus what sort of money are would it cost?

    Thanks.

    Is it available to you?

    Because the rollout has only started.


  • #6
    Donne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Donne


    So this FTTH is the 1000Mbps aka SIRO that has just started rolling out, yes?


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  • #7
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Donne wrote: »
    So this FTTH is the 1000Mbps aka SIRO that has just started rolling out, yes?

    openEIR FTTH is separate to SIRO FTTH. And they seem to be using slightly different tech.


  • #8
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Reading another thread on here by ecomental it does appear that if I order just FTTH to the home I will loose my existing FTTC as it appears all that will happen is that fibre will run from the cabinet where I am already connected to fibre for FTTC to the home. That is a real bummer as I could be waiting ages and the service may be hopeless. And it means I cant stay with VF.

    Have I assumed correctly?


  • #9
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    swoofer wrote: »
    Reading another thread on here by ecomental it does appear that if I order just FTTH to the home I will loose my existing FTTC as it appears all that will happen is that fibre will run from the cabinet where I am already connected to fibre for FTTC to the home. That is a real bummer as I could be waiting ages and the service may be hopeless. And it means I cant stay with VF.

    Have I assumed correctly?

    Nope.

    The port in the cab you're currently on is a VDSL2 port, its got nothing to do with GPON. The GPON just runs *under* the cab for convenience, its got nothing to do with the current services. Theres no reason why you cant keep both.


  • #10
    phog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,981 ✭✭✭✭phog


    swoofer wrote: »
    All this FTTH has me stumped. I was under the impression that if I was able to get FTTH I would have a brand new connection ie fibre only and then if I needed a phone I could use VOIP.

    And as I have FTTC with copper I could keep that as well!!

    Am I right or am I right??

    Why would you want FTTC & FTTH?

    The FTTC arrives to your house piggy backing on copper from a nearby cab, the FTTH is a separate connection and is fibre the whole way from the exchange to your home.

    Technically, it's possible to have both connections if your exchange/home is served by both products.


  • #11
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I just dont want to loose broadband and reading another post on here its a nightmare with eir, so far their order has been in for about 6 or 7 weeks and still no joy. The latest is that they now have to opt for FTTC first and then later get FTTH so that's what threw me. I would only keep the FTTC for a month at most.

    BUT I bet eir are using existing fibre to the cabinet and then hooking that up. It does not make sense to run new fibre cables... However I am no techie so hence the query.

    I will wait a bit longer.
    thanks for replies.


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  • #12
    phog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,981 ✭✭✭✭phog


    swoofer wrote: »
    I just dont want to loose broadband and reading another post on here its a nightmare with eir, so far their order has been in for about 6 or 7 weeks and still no joy. The latest is that they now have to opt for FTTC first and then later get FTTH so that's what threw me. I would only keep the FTTC for a month at most.

    BUT I bet eir are using existing fibre to the cabinet and then hooking that up. It does not make sense to run new fibre cables... However I am no techie so hence the query.

    I will wait a bit longer.
    thanks for replies.

    If you migrate from FTTC to FTTH then you shouldn't lose your FTTC broadband until your FTTH connection order is completed.

    AFAIK, the fibres to the FTTC had spare capacity, some of this spare capacity was extended to a box beyond the FTTC Cabs which is closer to the house. If a customer orders FTTH then their connection is ran from that box into their premises.

    In effect FTTH is completely a separate circuit from FTTC


  • #13
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭rob808


    swoofer wrote: »
    I just dont want to loose broadband and reading another post on here its a nightmare with eir, so far their order has been in for about 6 or 7 weeks and still no joy. The latest is that they now have to opt for FTTC first and then later get FTTH so that's what threw me. I would only keep the FTTC for a month at most.

    BUT I bet eir are using existing fibre to the cabinet and then hooking that up. It does not make sense to run new fibre cables... However I am no techie so hence the query.

    I will wait a bit longer.
    thanks for replies.
    It depend were you are living are you in any of the 66 towns that getting FTTH.If not are in one of towns were blue line running though it.Eir doing what they did in belcarra in which the town got vdsl and the rural home got FTTH.

    I say Eir waiting on siro to start phase 2 of there FTTH program before doing FTTC areas only downside would be eir would take longer doing the rural FTTH.


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