Dublin port tunnel - 5 hour closure due to vehicle fire!

my friend

Extraordinary problems and delays continue with the poor management of this tunnel

There's no credible explanation why even a HGV fire would close the tunnel for 5 hours

Seems like they love the drama and don't understand their reason for being

Tow or push the disabled vehicle out and be done with it

It's a fire in a tunnel, there's massive a risk to life with a tunnel fire. After a fire they have to assess any damage to the tunnel. Simple as that.

Remember the Mont Blanc tunnel fire?

Idbatterim

I have just rad about the chaos! who said dublin needs a proper rail based transport network?

my friend

Dónal wrote: »

It's a fire in a tunnel, there's massive a risk to life with a tunnel fire. After a fire they have to assess any damage to the tunnel. Simple as that.

Remember the Mont Blanc tunnel fire?

Different set up, different circumstances, want a real world comparison?
Lincoln , Holland or Midtown tunnels in NYC.

It's not about not being careful, It's about getting the job done.

No amount of spoofing can excuse 5 hours minimum

Idbatterim

are trucks obliged to have their own fire extinguisher on board?

Van.Bosch

where is the 5 hours coming from?

my friend

my friend wrote: »

Different set up, different circumstances, want a real world comparison?
Lincoln , Holland or Midtown tunnels in NYC.

It's not about not being careful, It's about getting the job done.

No amount of spoofing can excuse 5 hours minimum

It's a fire! Fires kill, so of course its about being careful. Have a look up some of the Sydney tunnel fires that have taken place for better examples.

ArmaniJeanss

Well, its actually just over 2 hours at the moment, and no-one knows as yet how bad the fire was.
But other than that it seems a reasonable rant.

theskeptic

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Well, its actually just over 2 hours at the moment, and no-one knows as yet how bad the fire was.
But other than that it seems a reasonable rant.

From @GardaTraffic at 10:23am
Dublin: The Southbound lanes of Dublin Port Tunnel have reopened to traffic. The Northbound lanes remain closed.

Carawaystick

Idbatterim wrote: »

are trucks obliged to have their own fire extinguisher on board?

A few years ago, a lorry load of fire extinguishers went on fire just south of the Newtownmountkennedy bypass on the old N11 :eek:

seamus

my friend wrote: »

Tow or push the disabled vehicle out and be done with it

So they should send an AA guy in with an oxygen mask and a tow truck and tell him to go do his thing?

Astounding lack of awareness on your part.

Alkers

I passed the tunnel this am at about 8.20 heading NB on the M1 and there was a very notable smell of fire in the air, I just passed again at about 11:45 and it was still noticeable so I'm guessing the fire was serious enough.
I think both bores are closed as the emergency services access the incident bore through the other one?

Elmer Blooker

my friend wrote: »

Extraordinary problems and delays continue with the poor management of this tunnel

There's no credible explanation why even a HGV fire would close the tunnel for 5 hours

There is. You would expect congestion and delays with the closure of the port tunnel but TOTAL gridlock and the city grinding to a halt is a warning sign that the pressure on Dublin's infrastructure is at breaking point due to a useless public transport system and roads full to capacity (at peak hours) with single occupant vehicles. This should be seen a wake up call but of course the ostrich mentality will prevail as it always does. Get more cars on the roads and keep those taxes coming in!

bucketybuck

Does anybody know the model of the HGV involved?

flyingsnail

bucketybuck wrote: »

Does anybody know the model of the HGV involved?

Some pictures of it here but it is not easy to make out
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gridlock-both-lanes-in-dublin-port-tunnel-have-reopened-31537140.html

aliveandkicking

my friend wrote: »

Extraordinary problems and delays continue with the poor management of this tunnel

There's no credible explanation why even a HGV fire would close the tunnel for 5 hours

Seems like they love the drama and don't understand their reason for being

Tow or push the disabled vehicle out and be done with it

You posted this thread at 0919 at which point the tunnel was closed less than 2 and a half hours. Where did you get your 5 hours from?

Who is the "they" you refer do when you say "they love the drama"?

Your whole post is nothing but an ill informed rant.

markpb

aliveandkicking wrote: »

You posted this thread at 0919 at which point the tunnel was closed less than 2 and a half hours. Where did you get your 5 hours from?

He was right though, maybe he's a psychic? The tunnel closed around 7am and wasn't fully re-opened until after midday.

Cookie_Monster

flyingsnail wrote: »

Some pictures of it here but it is not easy to make out
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gridlock-both-lanes-in-dublin-port-tunnel-have-reopened-31537140.html

while I 100% agree with the caution shown in regards to closing and checking the tunnel post blaze and the time taken to do it describing it as an "inferno" and the "most frightening thing I've ever seen" is comically over the top. Poor bloke must lead a very sheltered life.

my friend

aliveandkicking wrote: »

You posted this thread at 0919 at which point the tunnel was closed less than 2 and a half hours. Where did you get your 5 hours from?

Who is the "they" you refer do when you say "they love the drama"?

Your whole post is nothing but an ill informed rant.

The bore involved was closed for over 5 hours
It's you that appears ill informed

LXFlyer

my friend wrote: »

The bore involved was closed for over 5 hours
It's you that appears ill informed

But it wasn't at 09:00 when you quoted that timeframe.

Crumbs868

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

describing it as an "inferno" and the "most frightening thing I've ever seen" is comically over the top. Poor bloke must lead a very sheltered life.

It's easy to be an Internet hero...

I can imagine being in a tunnel(a relatively long one too) with a truck fire taking off in front of you and with stories of the fatal channel tunnel and mount blanc fires running through your your mind isnt the most relaxing experience.

You do realise fires have to start somewhere and they spread very quickly?

Alun

Crumbs868 wrote: »

I can imagine being in a tunnel(a relatively long one too) with a truck fire taking off in front of you and with stories of the fatal channel tunnel and mount blanc fires running through your your mind isnt the most relaxing experience.

I agree .. I'd be ****ting myself, and trying to get out as quickly as possible.

towger

aliveandkicking wrote: »

You posted this thread at 0919 at which point the tunnel was closed less than 2 and a half hours. Where did you get your 5 hours from?

Who is the "they" you refer do when you say "they love the drama"?

Your whole post is nothing but an ill informed rant.

2.5 hours for each bore = 5 hours in total 😀

Markcheese

What was a little worrying about the Irish times article - was the bit about emergency information in the tunnel - the tunnel authorities usually broadcast info via radio ( they can in the jack lynch tunnel too ) but if you don't have the radio on - and when they tell people to evacuate the tunnel do they mean get out of your car and leg it or wait till there's space to reverse or drive out - ( fine if everyone does it )

Second Toughest in_the Freshers

Crumbs868 wrote: »

I can imagine being in a tunnel(a relatively long one too) with a truck fire taking off in front of you and with stories of the fatal channel tunnel and mount blanc fires running through your your mind isnt the most relaxing experience.

yeah, like that film 'Daylight' it was on telly recently enough. maybe yer man saw it aswell

Carawaystick

my friend wrote: »

There's no credible explanation why even a HGV fire would close the tunnel for 5 hours

The Mont Blanc tunnel was shut for 3 years

The M50 was shut for >5hours when a lorry load of hay went on fire last year at Blanch.

Hotblack Desiato

Crumbs868 wrote: »

I can imagine being in a tunnel(a relatively long one too) with a truck fire taking off in front of you and with stories of the fatal channel tunnel and mount blanc fires

The fires in the channel tunnel have thankfully resulted in no fatalities. Mont Blanc was horrific though. I went through it (on a motorbike) in 1997 or 98 and it was fine but you're in there quite a long time, it's only after the disastrous fire that you think about how there's no real way to get out and the refuges have only limited fire resistance and oxygen.