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Shed build

  • 16-09-2015 10:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi lads and lassies,

    I'm in need of a shed / workshop in the back garden and have looked at a lot of options and something like this is looking like a runner.. delivered flatpack and self build.

    First of all, am I mad? are there any pitfalls with these sheds, are there better options?

    What I like about it is the 45mm thick walls & double glazing, should be ok all year round for tinkering in..

    The optional roof insulation is a bit steep at €450 and seeing as I have a stash of 50mm RW5, enough to do it, I'll DIY that bit of it.

    So, anyone here ever built one of these? Any gems of experience you'd be willing to part with? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I've just finished my own shed/ workshop and went down the Shanette shed route- fully insulated Kingspan panels, double glazed windows, rooflights and steel doors. Price-wise the shed alone wouldn't be far off what you're looking at there but the concrete base required does add significantly to the cost. I also ply-lined the the internals and added extra cost with floor insulation, floor paint, wiring, shelving etc. Not cheap but I wanted something with low heating costs, low-maintenance and durable with a lifespan of 20+ years. All said it's the best money I ever spent, only regret I had was that I couldn't go bigger than the 20'x 12' that my small garden allowed. The VAT element of the work done by registered contractors (the shed supplier and concrete ground works) are recoverable under the Home Renewal Incentive Scheme.

    I'd have grave reservations about a timber-clad building in this country as regards to durability; as well as the time involved you should consider the ongoing cost of maintainance over time and you'd be looking at refelting every 5 years at best if the the "shingles" referred to are the bitumen felt type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    I had a big long reply typed for this and then got the dreaded session timed out message ....:mad:

    I looked at lots of steel sheds and none of them really impressed me - I didn't see any Shanette ones mind, I only went to suppliers around Dublin. Are they the proper foam sandwich construction type or is it a steel outer skin with Kingspan inside and DPM over it? Anything I saw bar one supplier was just saying condensation problems to me and the properly insulated one was 6K without the base.. add another 1K for a concrete floor with rebar and DPM to be installed and it's out of by budget.

    I went to see the loghouse guy today - with a list of questions - and to be honest, I was impressed with the answers. The sheds are built on pads, blocks steel stilts and then a subframe. I had a good stomp around the display ones and they're pretty solid. Walls are 45mm timber, which I think is enough to not have to further insulate, the roof is 19mm t&g which I'll build a second skin on top with the 50mm RW5 in between, the shingles are a concern though.. You're right in that they'll have to be replaces after a couple of years but at that point I'll probably have enough savings back to put some tegral sheets on.

    I quite like the idea of this as a self build as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    The shed I went for has 60mm Kingspan double skin panels throughout, I added an extra door and 1 extra window (1 door and 2 windows are included in the basic cost), which brought that to €7000- so not cheap. Insulated concrete base, drainage, ground works and paving added another €4500 to the cost. By the time I'm finished I'll have spent close to €13500, but what price happiness? ; )

    Good luck with your build, they're a nice looking shed,I'm sure you'll be very happy in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Yeah, you're right there, if you're happy with it then it's worth the money alright!

    I'm probably going to get them to build the subframe and foundation, do the rest myself. I'll also upgrade the window / doors to proper ones, the standard ones are double glazed alright but the locking on them is poor, a good sneeze would open them.. the extra 500 gives proper 5-point locking and I think it would be worth it.

    So all in, I'm looking at 5560 to build it. Plus the roof addition - less than 200 for 2x2's and ply on top, plus electrics and maybe some guttering.


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