Masie Williams theroies

mach1982

I going out on a limb and say the Masie Williams's character is a younger incarnation of Missy . Think about it it was Sisterhood of khan that created the War Doctor. In in prequel

the doctor mentions that person they want him help is a friend and an enemy

. It is not River as we have seen all her regenerations , and I doubt it is Jenny as she did not regenerated , her body stayed the same. Yes might be Susan but that is too predicable.

Doctor DooM

RIVERROMANAROSERANI
... always one of the Rs, and never turns out to be

The_Valeyard

Doctors Daughter?


The Rani?

Wibbs

Me, I'd like Romana to make a return. She won't, but I'd like it. As a kid I loved her general vibe of "ehhhh OK, you are my *air quotes* superior, but this is really how it works ya daft old feck".

Mr.Saturn

Having been woefully off-the-mark with my predictions as to Missy's role, I'll try again and say Williams' character is gonna just be Moffat using a new character to fiddle with The Doctor's lore.

mach1982

Still say she is Missy that was her "clever idea " to regenerate.

Axwell

Gonna go with the possibility that she is Missys daughter..

The_Valeyard

Axwell wrote: »

Gonna go with the possibility that she is Missys daughter..

After the latest episode, I'm thinking the same thing.

Interrobang

Axwell wrote: »

Gonna go with the possibility that she is Missys daughter..

And when her character says to The Doctor, "What took you so long, old man?"...

Nah... they wouldn't go there...

Would they...?

mach1982

I was wrong completely wrong .

NyOmnishambles

Did she not call herself Daughter of Inar

Hat tip to The Rani perhaps?

Axwell

Considering how names have cropped up to have different meanings I think there is more to Ashildr than meets the eye yet and not just that shes immortal thanks to the doctor.

River Song, Missy, so on and so forth..women characters with mysterious hidden names. I dont think things are any different here and theres something more to come from it.

Ashildr, shil being a word used to substitute another word or phrase or someone who works with a con artist posing as someone they arent...a 'fake' Dr?...clutching I know but still this is Dr Who.

So as of now shes a girl who is able to regenerate, is immortal and will live through time and history..coincidence I think not. Shes clearly going to grow to resent and hate the Dr too from the scene at the end.

Previously I thought she was going to be related to Missy, its still a possibility but now I wouldnt be surprised if theres some connection to River either. The introduction of calling her a Hybrid. River Song herself born with genetic traits and abilities of a time lord after being conceived on the Tardis, a sort of Hybrid if you will. We also have a previous mention of a hybrid in the previous episodes with Davros reminding the Doctor of a Gallifreyan prophecy where two great warrior races would be ‘forced together to create a warrior greater than either’. Davros assumed this meant the Daleks and the Time Lords; maybe he was wrong.

So the other question is who did or does she give the other chip too and does that have an impact on the overall story!?

FloatingVoter

I'd imagine Maisie Williams is tired of getting roles that involve hairy smelly blokes who are gagging for a fight. When she took a role in Doctor Who I'm sure she was thinking cocktail dress, champagne, maybe on a nice 5 star interstellar cruise. Nope, Vikings.

The_Valeyard

Is it possbile, she is Missy / Master?

You know, it could simply be a brand new character, new bad guy, not relying on the old foes.

corkie

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I'd imagine Maisie Williams is tired of getting roles that involve hairy smelly blokes who are gagging for a fight. When she took a role in Doctor Who I'm sure she was thinking cocktail dress, champagne, maybe on a nice 5 star interstellar cruise. Nope, Vikings.

She won't be dealing with vikings in "The Women Who Lived" plus she has been cast in four new films. See here

jasonb

Axwell wrote: »

So as of now shes a girl who is able to regenerate, is immortal and will live through time and history..coincidence I think not. Shes clearly going to grow to resent and hate the Dr too from the scene at the end.

I was thinking about this, and she's immortal 'baring any accidents' as the Doctor said. She can't regenerate though, she's not part-Time Lord or anything like that. She's just a human with some alien tech that will always heal her body.

Also, she doesn't seem that pissed off with him in the next episode, which is what, several hundred years later.

Axwell wrote: »

Previously I thought she was going to be related to Missy, its still a possibility but now I wouldnt be surprised if theres some connection to River either. The introduction of calling her a Hybrid. River Song herself born with genetic traits and abilities of a time lord after being conceived on the Tardis, a sort of Hybrid if you will. We also have a previous mention of a hybrid in the previous episodes with Davros reminding the Doctor of a Gallifreyan prophecy where two great warrior races would be ‘forced together to create a warrior greater than either’. Davros assumed this meant the Daleks and the Time Lords; maybe he was wrong.

So the other question is who did or does she give the other chip too and does that have an impact on the overall story!?

At first, when I watched it, and he talked about the Hybrid, I was thinking, yeah, maybe that's the prophecy! But once again, she's not really a hybrid, she's human with alien technology, she's not a mix of two races or anything like that. If she was mixed with the 'Mire' themselves, that would be a hybrid of two warrior races (Viking and Mire), but she's basically Viking with a never-ending med-kit, not quite the same thing!

I don't think she'll suddenly be a recurring guest star on the show (a lá River) for no other reason than Masie has a lot on her acting plate already! I'm tempted to think that they're introduced her to show a couple of things, like the fact that the Doctor has taken a chance and possibly made a big mistake by causing a tidal wave, and what the consequences of that will be. And I also think that the second med-kit could involve Clara, in that she might have an option to use it (whether she chooses that option is another thing). They've talked a bit about her being addicted to this life, and getting too comfortable with it. If she uses the Med-kit, she could in theory stay with him forever. And we know that doesn't happen!

The med-kit seems like too much of a McGuffin not to be important at some stage...

J.

Axwell

jasonb wrote: »

I was thinking about this, and she's immortal 'baring any accidents' as the Doctor said. She can't regenerate though, she's not part-Time Lord or anything like that. She's just a human with some alien tech that will always heal her body

Regenerate in the sense she will always heal, im assuming if you cut off her finger another will grow back. Obviously shes not part time lord.

jasonb

Axwell wrote: »

Regenerate in the sense she will always heal, im assuming if you cut off her finger another will grow back. Obviously shes not part time lord.

Sorry, I didn't mean that you thought she was part-Time Lord etc., I meant to make the point that the show seems to be setting her up as a hybrid (possibly harking back to Davros's prophecy) but I don't think she fits that bill. So if the show is trying to get her to fit that bill then it's a stretch, in my mind...

J.

Das Kitty

I think the Hybrid thing meant that, before she was but a simple farm-girl, and now she has some of the genes of THE MOST FEARSOME WARRIOR RACE THAT YOU NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.

So not only is she a fluffy puddle of love, she is also a bad-ass mofo.

Stiofán Ó Moféid's type of gal, in other words.

I am on some very nice, very strong, painkillers. Apologies for the Brian Blessed levels of hyperbole.

NyOmnishambles

Das Kitty wrote: »

I think the Hybrid thing meant that, before she was but a simple farm-girl, and now she has some of the genes of THE MOST FEARSOME WARRIOR RACE THAT YOU NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.

So not only is she a fluffy puddle of love, she is also a bad-ass mofo.

Stiofán Ó Moféid's type of gal, in other words.

I am on some very nice, very strong, painkillers. Apologies for the Brian Blessed levels of hyperbole.

Everything is better with some Brian Blessed level Hyperbole

pixelburp

Correction,

Everything is better with some Brian Blessed

It does seem to me that Williams' character is the new Captain Jack / River Song character, who's young enough to pop up in many stories to come if needed, but can also be replaced by an older actor without raising too many questions. It's fairly standard to swap a teen actor for an older adult, rather than one adult for another.

Course I say that and sure next week she'll be bumped off