Changing name by deed poll

Bagle

Hello (sorry if this is in the wrong section),

I will be changing my name by deed poll soon and I was just wondering if anyone could help me with the two forms: Adult Deed Poll and Affidavit of Attesting Witness. I found a template for both forms on the Citizen's Information site and I was just wondering if I've filled it in correctly (don't worry, I've used fake information for the sake of this thread).

The things that are in bold is what I've filled in myself and the things that are in italic are parts that I'm not sure about.

Template of the deed poll:
i.imgur.com/uYCozM1.png

CHANGE OF NAME BY DEED POLL

NEW NAME IN FULL: JANE DOE
ADDRESS: 87 FIELD RISE,
DUBLIN.
OLD NAME IN FULL: CAITLIN DOE
CITIZENSHIP: IRISH (?) I'm actually not sure what I'm supposed to say here
DATE OF BIRTH: 12TH OF JUNE 1995
I HEREBY DECLARE
That I wholly renounce, relinquish and abandon the use of my old name and in place thereof do assume and adopt from the date hereof my new name so that I may hereafter be called known and distinguished not by my old name but by my new name,
That I shall at all times hereafter in all records, deeds and documents and any other writing and in all actions, suits and proceedings as well as in all dealings, transactions matters and things whatsoever and upon all occasions use and subscribe my new name in place of and in lieu of my old name relinquished as aforesaid,
That I expressly authorise and request all persons at all times hereafter to designate and address me by my assumed and adopted new name.
In Witness I have subscribed my former name and adopted name this 9th day of September 2015
Signed as a Deed and delivered
(NEW NAME) JANE DOE
(NEW NAME SIGNATURE) Jane Doe
(OLD NAME) Formerly known as CAITLIN DOE
(OLD NAME SIGNATURE) Caitlin Doe
In the presence of (WITNESS SIGNATURE) Ryan O'Neill
(WITNESS NAME) RYAN O'NEILL
(WITNESS ADDRESS) 45 Rise Field,
Dublin.
(WITNESS OCCUPATION) UNEMPLOYED (?) my friend finished his LC and is currently doing nothing, is it correct to say unemployed?

Affidavit of attesting witness template:
i.imgur.com/7Js6kkJ.png

AFFIDAVIT OF ATTESTING WITNESS

I, Ryan O'Neill
Of 45 Rise Field,
Dublin.
unemployed aged eighteen years and upwards make Oath and say as follows:-
1. I am the subscribing witness to the execution of the within Deed Poll by the within named Jane Doe by signing and sealing the said Deed Poll.
2. I was present and saw the Deed Poll duly executed by the said Jane Doe by the signing and sealing of same.
3. I say the Name Ryan O'Neill subscribed as witness to the execution of the said Deed Poll by the said Jane Doe is my proper name and handwriting.

Sworn by the said Ryan O'Neill
at 34 Street,
Dublin.
before me Commissioner for Oaths/Practising Solicitor
and I know the deponent
this 9th day of September 2015

My main concerns for now are whether or not I have filled the two forms in correctly and what I should write for CITIZENSHIP and WITNESS OCCUPATION.

Thank you.

Peregrinus

Your citizenship is something you will know better than us. Have you any reason to think that you're not an Irish citizen?

If your friend is between school and college he's a "student". Otherwise "unemployed" is fine. If he doesn't like the sound of that then he can be a "gentleman".

Bagle

Thanks Peregrinus!

Sorry, I am an Irish citizen. I was confused as to whether or not I should say "Irish" or "yes (to hold ing an Irish citizenship)".

Also, will I type out everything except names (my name and the witness)?

Peregrinus

You say "Irish", not "yes".

You can type or write, whichever you prefer, as long as it's legible. except for the signatures, of course.

Mr. Incognito

You will need to get it sworn before a solicitor- costs a tenner.

Acara

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You will need to get it sworn before a solicitor- costs a tenner.

Is there a public record of this kept like in for birth/marriages and death records?

Peregrinus

Yes, after you've had it sworn by a solicitor you have to take it to the Central Office of the High Court and register it there. I think they then notify the registrar of births, deaths and marriages, but I'm not sure about that.

beyondbelief67

Peregrinus wrote: »

Yes, after you've had it sworn by a solicitor you have to take it to the Central Office of the High Court and register it there. I think they then notify the registrar of births, deaths and marriages, but I'm not sure about that.

You don't have to register it if you don't want to, and it's still as valid and legal without doing that.
But if someone is changing there name for safety or security reasons registering it makes it easier to be found so it's better not to register it and just be sworn by solicitor.
This was the advice given to me last year by my solicitor.

hullaballoo

The deed is made public. I still remember perusing it at one point and seeing someone had changed their name, officially to Barcelona Cruz.

Bagle

Thank you for the replies everyone.

On Courts.ie it says the following:

There is norequirement to enrol a deed poll in order to change your name. A deed poll enrolled in the Central Office of the High Court has no greater effect than a deed poll which has not been enrolled.

I know you get a certified copy of the original enrolled deed poll, but I was just wondering is there any other reason that you should enroll.

Peregrinus

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

You don't have to register it if you don't want to, and it's still as valid and legal without doing that . . .

You don't even have to execute it if you don't want to.

Your name is a matter of fact. If people call you "Jim", then your name is Jim. So if you want to change your name to Jim, and you get all your friends and connections to call you Jim - violà! Job done. Jim is now your name. No need to either execute or register a deed poll. And this is what typically happens when someone adopts a new surname on marriage, or decides to switch from the English to the Irish version of their name, or vice versa.

But a deed poll can be useful. If you change your name in circumstances where that's not usual or expected, banks and other agencies can be a bit picky. They are concerned not to facilitate what might be identity theft, or money-laundering, or the evasion of legal obligations by concealing your identity. So they like to see something that looks a bit official, and proves that you really have changed your name. A deed poll serves this purpose.

Strictly speaking, the deed poll doesn't itself operate to change your name. It's evidence that you have changed you name. You never need it to change your name, but you many need it to prove to others that you have changed your name.

Acara

Peregrinus wrote: »

You don't even have to execute it if you don't want to.

Your name is a matter of fact. If people call you "Jim", then your name is Jim. So if you want to change your name to Jim, and you get all your friends and connections to call you Jim - violà! Job done. Jim is now your name. No need to either execute or register a deed poll. And this is what typically happens when someone adopts a new surname on marriage, or decides to switch from the English to the Irish version of their name, or vice versa.

But a deed poll can be useful. If you change your name in circumstances where that's not usual or expected, banks and other agencies can be a bit picky. They are concerned not to facilitate what might be identity theft, or money-laundering, or the evasion of legal obligations by concealing your identity. So they like to see something that looks a bit official, and proves that you really have changed your name. A deed poll serves this purpose.

Strictly speaking, the deed poll doesn't itself operate to change your name. It's evidence that you have changed you name. You never need it to change your name, but you many need it to prove to others that you have changed your name.

Could see why banks would be concerned. What would be stopping a person holding accounts (esp offshore) in new name while never closing ones in old name

Avatar MIA

There are lots of times where you will need to prove your name officially.

I would think getting if linked to your PPS number would be important.

Education, to get certified will require proof of official name. Ditto drivers licence, social welfare etc.

Acara

hullaballoo wrote: »

The deed is made public. I still remember perusing it at one point and seeing someone had changed their name, officially to Barcelona Cruz.

Where did can you see deed made public.

Peregrinus

Acara wrote: »

Could see why banks would be concerned. What would be stopping a person holding accounts (esp offshore) in new name while never closing ones in old name

Banks don't like you holding an account in a name that is not the name you actually use.

Gone are the days when you could walk into a bank branch saying that you wanted to open an account, and the clerk would whip out the right form and a pen, look at you meaningfully and say "what name shall I put?" Nowadays banks are subject to stringent anti-moneylaundering "know your customer" rules; you'll have to produce documentary identification of yourself, your address, how long you have been there, your collar size, your favourite flavour of icecream, etc, etc. And if the names on the documents don't match up to the name you want to put the account in, you have a problem. Which a deed poll may help to solve.

Bagle

Thank you everyone who helped me. I successfully executed the deed poll.