Connolly might have been facing AIF suspension had hearing followed precedent

gaffer91

According to this article, while it was reasonable for Connolly's suspension to be lifted for the semi-final, the case should have been sent back and re-heard by the various bodies where he could, and more than likely would, have faced suspension for the final. However, this seems not to have happened for some reason. If this is correct then that is absolutely disgraceful.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gael...peal-1.2344760

Poor_old_gill

gaffer91 wrote: »

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According to this article, while it was reasonable for Connolly's suspension to be lifted for the semi-final, the case should have been sent back and re-heard by the various bodies where he could, and more than likely would, have faced suspension for the final. However, this seems not to have happened for some reason. If this is correct then that is absolutely disgraceful.

Forgetting the final for now- the fact that his suspension was lifted was embarrassing for the GAA as a whole.
If you can't get suspended for holding a guy down and punching him in the head then there is a serious issue.

keeponhurling

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gaffer91

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/diarmuid-connolly-risked-missing-all-ireland-final-over-appeal-1.2344760

irishgeo

The GAA system is broken, the refs are upset at being undermined. The Kerry manager said it doesn't appear to be working.

The only way I can see it working is to sign up to a rugby style system of a citing ref at each game. And a disciplinary panel with no appeals the Wednesday after each round of games. No appeals. But its a clear to see a bunch of amateurs wrote the rules and there is more holes than you can shake a stick it.

gaffer91

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Forgetting the final for now- the fact that his suspension was lifted was embarrassing for the GAA as a whole.
If you can't get suspended for holding a guy down and punching him in the head then there is a serious issue.

Well to be fair, there is something to be said for having a system of appeals and hearings etc. But he shouldn't just be completely left off the hook.

Mr. Incognito

Good luck getting a vote on rule changes through Congress.

The GAA is a dinosaur

keeponhurling

The way they went about it, involving a panel of solicitors and the like, you'd swear it was a very complex, multi-faceted case.

In fact, Connolly punched a player, was spotted by the officials and got a red card.
Simples.

ArielAtom

All,

It is a GAA problem, the Connolly bashing has become tiresome. How many high profile red cards/suspensions have been overturned in the last number of years.

Bash the GAA and stop focusing on one incident.

AA.

Stoner

Poor_old_gill wrote:

Forgetting the final for now- the fact that his suspension was lifted was embarrassing for the GAA as a whole. If you can't get suspended for holding a guy down and punching him in the head then there is a serious issue.

The guy pulled him down and held him. Yes he punched him but dont add to it unnecessarily

BPKS

ArielAtom wrote: »

All,

It is a GAA problem, the Connolly bashing has become tiresome. How many high profile red cards/suspensions have been overturned in the last number of years.

Bash the GAA and stop focusing on one incident.

AA.

Well 2 for Diarmuid Connolly anyway - both in All Ireland Semi Finals.

Poor_old_gill

Stoner wrote: »

The guy pulled him down and held him. Yes he punched him but dont add to it unnecessarily

I'm not adding to it even slightly to be fair- when Connolly punches him he is holding him down with his other hand.

The idea of using Connolly being "pulled down", which he wasnt as he started the whole thing, as an excuse for his actions is just ludicrous and I cant fathom how some people actually believe that is an acceptable defence.

I don't give two jots for Dublin or Mayo and actually had some money on Dublin to win so by default I was cheering for them- but this has been a mass failure by the GAA and in all honesty they have been undermined by the route that Dublin took with their appeal.

The whole incident from the punch to the appeal lacked class.

Grandeeod

BPKS wrote: »

Well 2 for Diarmuid Connolly anyway - both in All Ireland Semi Finals.

In all fairness the one in the Donegal game was a blatant actors stunt. The world and his dog could see that.

Stoner

Poor_old_gill wrote:

I'm not adding to it even slightly to be fair- when Connolly punches him he is holding him down with his other hand.

You are not being fair imo. You left out any part Keegan played in this and added that Keegan was held on the ground, you left out the holding he was doing himself.
Keegan was blocking his run, Connelly was trying to get involved in the attack being a forward, Keegan being the defender was blocking his run. They ended up on the ground Keegans arm around Connellys neck , Connelly punched Keegan.

I was there I saw it. I saw Keegan stick his hand in Connellys chest to block him, Connelly got involved, they ended up on the ground Connelly out of the attack, job done for Keegan, Connelly threw a punch while his own head was held when he was tangled up with Keegan, you make it sound like he got the guy on the ground and held him there while he punched him, that's why I've questioned the post. That's why Brolly made a case about how Connelly might claim self defence due to restricted breathing and attempting to escape a headlock. I'm not making that case by the way, I'm just questioning your claim to bring "fair" and your selective use of facts mainly by what you've left out and by your statement that Keegan was being held down, Keegan did plenty of holding himself, you left that out, fair is balanced, your post is selective. Stating that he held him down is adding to the story as this was a tussle on the ground not one man holding another down.

If you don't like the player fair enough but the two boys ended up on the ground, that's why Keegan got a yellow card in recognition of his part in the incident. Connelly got a red as he threw a punch. I agree the suspension should not have been lifted, but both of them were at it, the way you've described it does not reflect that, you've painted a one-sided picture.

cj maxx

Not particiarly on the connolly incident but i agree there needs to be an appeals process for wrongly issued red cards.
One review thats all.
If the ref and then a panel with tv reviews etc still find you guilty , your guilty !

Browney7

Remember Lee Keegan got sent off for throwing a kick. Ref said in report he gave a red card "for kicking with minimal force". Because Mayo could show on TV he didn't connect he should have been charged with " attempting to kick with minimal force" and got off. This sums up the utter boll0x of the whole thing.

Seanie Tobin got a red by the letter of the law for something fairly innocuous but didn't get off after the Clare game. Some fellas getting off and others not just fuels the sense of injustice.

Comes back to underage club level all the time with refs being asked to write lads down for two yellows instead of a straight red. No one wants to take punishment in the GAA.

Every senior intercounty match needs a match citing commissioner who goes through the video on a Monday morning instead of the "trial by Sunday game" that gets bandied about all the time.