elderly abuse

babyteeth

Is there a way elderly people can be protected from being conned or taken advantage of. For example, a child gets a parent to change their will to leave all assets to them and leave out the other children, or an elderly person signs over some right to a third party which seems inequitable to someone else. Assuming there is no ward of court or POA in place ?

Peregrinus

Your question boils down to "Is there a way elderly people can be protected from being connned or taken advantage of . . . assuming there are no legal protections in place?"

If there are no legal protections in place, obviously you are looking for non-legal protections. Such as, the older person being in full possession of their wits. Or, the older person having the kind of trusting relationship with their family which would mean that, even if a bit confused, they wouldn't make a decision like this without discussing it.

I'd also point out that you glide a bit smoothly from "being conned or taken advantage of" to making an arrangement "which seems inequitable to someone else". There's a huge gap there. The fact that you disagree with what I do, or think it unfair or inequitable, doesn't have to mean that I have been conned. It could just mean that I have different ideas or priorities to you.

beyondbelief67

These people will be able to help you and tell you anything you need to know or may have a concern about.

http://www.thirdageireland.ie/what-we-do/52/sage-e---support-and-advocacy-service/

babyteeth

Peregrinus wrote: »

Your question boils down to "Is there a way elderly people can be protected from being connned or taken advantage of . . . assuming there are no legal protections in place?"

If there are no legal protections in place, obviously you are looking for non-legal protections. Such as, the older person being in full possession of their wits. Or, the older person having the kind of trusting relationship with their family which would mean that, even if a bit confused, they wouldn't make a decision like this without discussing it.

I'd also point out that you glide a bit smoothly from "being conned or taken advantage of" to making an arrangement "which seems inequitable to someone else". There's a huge gap there. The fact that you disagree with what I do, or think it unfair or inequitable, doesn't have to mean that I have been conned. It could just mean that I have different ideas or priorities to you.

Maybe my wording was incorrect. I Guess my question is if the person is vulnerable. Let's say for example an elderly person signs over a right to a person. Another person says they believe that the elderly person was not of sound mind at the time and were confused. Now that's very hard to prove either way I would imagine ?

Peregrinus

Yes, it's hard to prove. The presumption is that someone is competent unless shown not to be, so the onus is on whoever is challenging the arrangement. You'd obviously need to have the older person concerned examined by a doctor to advise on their state of mind when the executed the arrangement, which can be hard to do if the arrangement doesn't come to light until years later, or until the older person has died.

byhookorbycrook

There are designated social workers who deal with elder abuse. Well worth checking them out.

babymamma

Can someone let me know about Ward of court for an Elderly person with Alzheimers.
Oh God I did not want to go down this road , but I have not been allowed see my Mum ....as my 2 Sisters are violent towards myself and my Sister. It just scares me as they don't want us around.
I had to do the detective this past year when Mum was in Hospital I found out when she was left last year with a lady for a week who had mental and drink problem got in touch with Elderly Abuse+HSE. This year both sisters were on a weeks holiday I don't know where my Mum was asked HSE I was afraid in case my Mum got sick. They came back said Mum was in respite. Now Sisters back from Holidays since Last Monday [boozing more nights] One of them told a nephew Mum will be back next Monday. All we ever wanted to do was visit Mum. Now it has gone too far, my youngest sister has a big birthday at week-end ...they know we would have asked to collect Mum. Read up on Ward of court ......how long does it take./

nuac

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