permission after death

sniperman

hi folks,might be a silly question,but if a land owner passes away who has given his/her permission for one to shoot on their land,and that person was named on a license app form,1,do the guards have to be informed,and 2 would one need to seek new permission form who ever has/owns the land now?

Mississippi.

As far as the Guards are concerned the permission would possibly last until the land is administered for and the deeds formally changed which could take 1 - 2 years approximately.
As for shooting goes, It would also kind of depend on who is working it now though?

Sparks

Technically yes if you got the licence on the basis of that permission.

dodderangler

Suppose the main thing is to find who the new owner is
Introduce yourself and explain that you've hunted the land with permission from the deceased owner and you'd like to optsin that permission. Show you've licence and insurance and bit of luck they'll allow you to continue to hunt it

meathstevie

Mississippi. wrote: »

As far as the Guards are concerned the permission would possibly last until the land is administered for and the deeds formally changed which could take 1 - 2 years approximately.
As for shooting goes, It would also kind of depend on who is working it now though?

You're possibly mixing up permission with sporting rights.

Permission is a nod to go ahead and hunt on the land. This obviously doesn't carry on when the landowner dies.

Sporting rights on the other hand are the ownership of the "sporting access" to the land. Very often the landowner and holder of the sporting rights are one and the same but not always. Sporting rights are a legal title and the person that owns them can grant or deny permission. This is where succession issues can come into play.

Mississippi.

meathstevie wrote: »

You're possibly mixing up permission with sporting rights.

Permission is a nod to go ahead and hunt on the land. This obviously doesn't carry on when the landowner dies.

Sporting rights on the other hand are the ownership of the "sporting access" to the land. Very often the landowner and holder of the sporting rights are one and the same but not always. Sporting rights are a legal title and the person that owns them can grant or deny permission. This is where succession issues can come into play.

No I was trying to refer to the legal limbo that exists when a land owner dies until their estate is administered for, ie signed in to the next persons name, very rarely is it less than a year and it can easily go over two years.

For example if you had given me written permission to hunt your land which I used on my license application and you died as I was going into year two of my license and you had one next of kin, my three years would be up before they had full control over the land.

I know it's not an ideal situation and everyone should have more than one permission but technically you should still be covered.

Mississippi.

sniperman wrote: »

hi folks,might be a silly question,but if a land owner passes away who has given his/her permission for one to shoot on their land,and that person was named on a license app form,1,do the guards have to be informed,and 2 would one need to seek new permission form who ever has/owns the land now?

As to question 2 , yes I would absolutely seek new permission from whoever is working/ about to inherit the land as you would be hoping for many more years permission on the land and you don't want to start off on the wrong foot with them.

Mississippi.

sniperman wrote: »

hi folks,might be a silly question,but if a land owner passes away who has given his/her permission for one to shoot on their land,and that person was named on a license app form,1,do the guards have to be informed,and 2 would one need to seek new permission form who ever has/owns the land now?

As to question 2 , yes I would absolutely seek new permission from whoever is working/ about to inherit the land as you would be hoping for many more years permission on the land and you don't want to start off on the wrong foot with them.

meathstevie

I think it's plain and simple, unless one believes in ghosts and ouija boards a dead person can not grant or deny access to land. If you know the people who are inheriting the land there can be little harm in seeking their permission. If it's a straightforward transfer of ownership from the deceased's estate to whoever inherits the land I can't see the Gardai making in issue out of a permission letter signed by the person who's awaiting the title being registered. After all most Gardai understand that the wheels of legal administration can turn very slowly at times.